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RE: Bad Boys II - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-25-2019

(07-18-2019, 10:04 AM)GMDino Wrote: Don't do something while black and then try to explain that it's legal...that's "resisting" and "obstructing an investigation".

Also don't have an outstanding traffic ticket!

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/police-arrest-artist-who-was-hired-by-city-to-paint-murals-i-dont-do-graffiti-i-sell-paintings-122655499.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw




-->As the 29-year-old musician and artist tried to explain the situation, and a city official arrived to back up his claims...<---


And he still spent 24 hour in jail.  Just wild.

I'm just guessing, but it might have something to do with his having an active bench warrant for his arrest.


RE: Bad Boys II - GMDino - 07-29-2019

Good guy shoots good guy.


Quote:GREENVILLE, S.C. – Footage captured by a South Carolina deputy's body camera shows the moment he shot and injured a homeowner last month, and the events that led up to and after the shooting.



The events in the video differ from the original account of the June 14 shooting that was reported by the Greenville County Sheriff's Office. In the video, the deputy shoots the man through the window of the Simpsonville house. Initially, the agency said the man was shot after he opened the door and pointed his gun at the deputy.


There was no audio for the first 30 seconds of the video, including when the deputy fired his gun.


AXON, a leading manufacturer of police body cameras, explains on its website that while in "buffer mode" body cameras are recording, but do not capture audio, and create only 30-second clips that are not saved to permanent memory until cameras are fully activated.

After he is shot, the man shouts for someone to "call the cops." The deputy responds, "I am the cops."


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The man who was shot was not charged, according to a critical incident report released by the Sheriff's Office.


A deputy responded to the house after a cellphone emergency alarm was reported at 11:49 p.m. to Greenville County Communications. The deputy went to the home after failed attempts to contact the cellphone from which the alarm originated.

Capt. Tim Brown, of the Sheriff's Office's Office of Professional Standards, said in the critical incident briefing video that was posted to YouTube that the deputy walked away from the porch, but approached it again when he saw movement inside the house. Brown said the deputy saw a man holding a gun and pointed his flashlight at him.


The Sheriff's Office said there would be no further comment about the video. The agency declined to share a copy of the edited video file since the primary public information officer was out of town, said Lt. Jimmy Bolt, a spokesman for the Sheriff's Office.

Brown said the man turned and pointed his gun at the deputy, at which point the deputy fired multiple shots through the window as he left the porch.


The body camera footage shows the deputy approach the front door, and a man can be seen through the front window. The deputy is then seen pointing his flashlight through the window and firing, but the light prevents the camera from capturing what's going on inside the house.

“The Sheriff’s Office’s statement for weeks after the shooting (was) that my client opened his front door and aimed at deputy and you can look at that bodycam – that ends that version,” attorney Beattie Ashmore said Monday morning after the clips of body camera footage was posted to YouTube by the Sheriff’s Office. “It’s difficult to explain how something like this could have happened.”


For about 40 seconds after firing shots through the window, the deputy communicates with the man inside while standing in the front yard. The man can be heard yelling in pain during the exchange.


The deputy then goes inside and finds the man on the ground near the front door.


The man, whose face is pixelated in the video, tells the deputy that he's been shot in the groin and the chest.


After entering the house, the deputy proceeds to give the man first aid as they wait for the ambulance to arrive.


As the deputy gets ready to treat him, the man yells, "I saw lights and I heard the door bell ring, so I got my gun. I'm a concealed weapons guy."


Several seconds later, the man asks, "Why did you do that?" and the deputy responds, "You pointed a gun at me, man." The man replies, "Dude, you came to my house at 12 o'clock at night, I'm sleeping. (Expletive), I've got to protect my house."


Ashmore is representing the homeowner, Dick Tench, who he described as a “fiercely patriotic” citizen and concealed weapons permit holder. 
Tench saw reflections from the deputy’s flashlight and came to see who was at his home, wondering whether an intruder had even broken into his house, Ashmore said.


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“He carries a concealed weapons permit. That’s a four-hour class where they teach you to first know what you’re shooting at when you first pull the trigger. Apparently, the officer didn’t attend that class.”


Ashmore said the video is evidence to show the deputy lied about the justification behind his actions.


"Somebody was," he said, after being asked whether the deputy was lying about the nature of the confrontation.


Tench is recovering but spent the first 30 days after the shooting with two bullets still lodged into his body, Ashmore said. He suffered one gunshot wound to his aortic artery and one to his pelvis. Two other bullets grazed his side, Ashmore said.


“This has shaken him to the core,” Ashmore said. “They are super fine people. There’s just more to the story here.”


The alarm that Greenville County Communications received was a medical emergency alarm, but there was no emergency at the home, Brown said in the video.


The State Law Enforcement Division is investigating the shooting. The Sheriff's Office also is conducting an internal investigation to determine whether the agency's use of force policy was violated during the incident. The deputy was placed on paid administrative leave after the shooting.



The Sheriff's Office has declined to release the name of the deputy.

Only posted here since the officer apparently misremembered how well he saw the homeowner with a gun. 


RE: Bad Boys II - Au165 - 07-29-2019

(07-29-2019, 03:56 PM)GMDino Wrote: Good guy shoots good guy.



Only posted here since the officer apparently misremembered how well he saw the homeowner with a gun. 

This would be one of those cases when lethal force wasn't warranted. 


RE: Bad Boys II - GMDino - 07-31-2019

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/investigations/2019/07/30/gonna-kill-dallas-police-body-cam-footage-reveals-final-minutes-tony-timpas-life?fbclid=IwAR00elHiGLB9Y4JqAN9l_AoWiSl8uBdNH3BU5EO54Awp_UeJR9Nph79wQkU


Quote:'You're gonna kill me!': Dallas police body cam footage reveals the final minutes of Tony Timpa's life

Tony Timpa wailed and pleaded for help more than 30 times as Dallas police officers pinned his shoulders, knees and neck to the ground. 


“You’re gonna kill me! You’re gonna kill me! You’re gonna kill me!”


After Timpa fell unconscious, the officers who had him in handcuffs assumed he was asleep and didn’t confirm that he was breathing or feel for a pulse. 

As precious minutes passed, the officers laughed and joked about waking Timpa up for school and making him waffles for breakfast. 


Body camera footage obtained Tuesday by The Dallas Morning News shows first responders waited at least four minutes after Timpa became unresponsive to begin CPR. His nose was buried in the grass while officers claimed to hear him snoring -- apparently unaware that the unarmed man was drawing his last breaths.


The officers pinned his handcuffed arms behind his back for nearly 14 minutes and zip-tied his legs together. By the time he was loaded onto a gurney and put into an ambulance, the 32-year-old was dead.


The News obtained Dallas Police Department body camera footage after a three-year fight for records related to Timpa’s death. A federal judge ruled Monday in favor of a motion by The News and NBC5 to release records from his death, saying “the public has a compelling interest in understanding what truly took place during a fatal exchange between a citizen and law enforcement.”


Timpa called 911 on Aug. 10, 2016, from the parking lot of a Dallas porn store, saying he was afraid and needed help. He told a dispatcher he suffered from schizophrenia and depression and was off his prescription medication. The News first reported Timpa’s death in a 2017 investigation that showed Dallas police refused to say how a man who had called 911 for help ended up dead.

The newly obtained video and records, part of a lawsuit filed by Timpa’s family in federal court alleging excessive force, contradict key claims Dallas police have made in defending the officers’ actions.


Police incident reports recounting the officers’ version of events claim Timpa’s behavior that night was aggressive and combative. The video shows Timpa writhing at times and clearly struggling to breathe, asking the officers to stop pinning him down. 


On a custodial death report submitted to the state in 2016, the department answered "no" to questions about whether Timpa resisted arrest, threatened or fought officers.


Police had previously claimed to use only enough force necessary to block Timpa from rolling into a busy section of Mockingbird Lane. In the first minute, Timpa rolls around near the curb. But the video shows a police car clearly blocks traffic about a minute later near the bus bench where the officers had pinned him. Several officers continue pressing his restrained body into the ground. 


DALLAS POLICE CUSTODIAL DEATH REPORT TO AG'S OFFICE (p. 2)
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In this report, when Dallas police were asked if Tony Timpa was trying to flee, threatening officers or hitting/fighting them, the answer was no. Later, on a Dallas Police Department record, they claimed Timpa was combative.
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He had already been handcuffed by a private security guard before police arrived. He never threatens to hurt or kill the police. 


The footage also shows the officers mocking Timpa as he struggled to live. Shortly after one officer ridicules Timpa’s repeated cries for help, an officer notes that he appears to be “out cold.” 


They joke that he’s merely asleep and try to wake him: “It’s time for school. Wake up!” 


One officer mimics a teen saying: “I don’t want to go to school! Five more minutes, Mom!” 


They joke about buying him new shoes for the first day of school and making him a special breakfast, laughing loudly. 
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    This is the site where Tony Timpa, 32, died in August 2016 after he called 911 and asked for help. He died on West Mockingbird Lane in Dallas after leaving the New Fine Arts store down the block. He ran out of the store afraid and was handcuffed by security guards. Dallas police arrived, and within an hour he was dead.
     
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It’s unclear from the video why Dallas Fire-Rescue medical responders don’t intervene immediately after Timpa loses consciousness. 


“I was unable to assess the patient due to his combativeness,” said one of the first responders in a newly obtained affidavit. 


However, the medical responders appear to take Timpa’s blood pressure while he is still conscious, about five minutes before administering Versed, a powerful sedative. By the time the paramedic gives Timpa the sedative, officers already are questioning if Timpa is awake. 


A Dallas Fire-Rescue spokesman declined to comment on the paramedics’ actions, citing the family’s pending lawsuit in federal court. The Dallas Police Department also declined to comment. 


Timpa died within 20 minutes of police arriving, and at least 15 minutes before an ambulance eventually transported his body to Parkland hospital. 


As the officers and paramedics struggle to load Timpa’s lifeless body onto the gurney, they  begin to panic, seeing his glassy, open eyes and blades of grass stuck to his mouth.
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Tony Timpa died in August 2016 at age 32. His family has fought since then to find answers in his death.

One of the officers asks: “He didn’t just die down there, did he?”


An autopsy ruled Timpa’s cause of death was a homicide, sudden cardiac death due to "the toxic effects of cocaine and the stress associated with physical restraint." 


The city of Dallas and Dallas County officials had fought since September 2016 to prevent public release of the records, arguing it could interfere with an ongoing criminal investigation. Officials then said the records could not be released because a criminal case against three of the police officers never made it to trial. 


Those three officers -- Kevin Mansell, Danny Vasquez and Dustin Dillard -- were indicted by a grand jury in 2017 on charges of misdemeanor deadly conduct, three months after The News published its investigation into Timpa’s death. Following two days of testimony, the grand jury’s indictment stated that the "officers engaged in reckless conduct that placed Timpa in imminent danger of serious bodily injury.”


But in March, Dallas County District Attorney John Creuzot dismissed the charges. 


Creuzot previously told The News that he met with "all three medical examiners" who had testified to the grand jury. They reportedly told him they did not believe the officers acted recklessly and "cannot, and will not, testify to the elements of the indictment beyond a reasonable doubt."


MEDICAL EXAMINER RULES TIMPA'S DEATH A HOMICIDE. (p. 7)
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"Sudden cardiac death due to the toxic effects of cocaine and physiologic stress associated with physical restraint."
View the entire document with DocumentCloud


Records recently obtained by The Newsshow the Dallas Police Department’s internal affairs investigation related to Timpa’s death was completed months before the officers were indicted. Dillard, Mansell and Vasquez were disciplined for “conduct discrediting” the department, but those  allegations were dropped when the criminal charges were dismissed. Vasquez and another officer present at Timpa’s death also received written reprimands for “discourtesy” and “unprofessionalism.”  


According to internal affairs records, Mansell and Vasquez were placed on administrative leave in December 2017. Dillard was also placed on leave in March 2018, internal affairs records show.


The officers returned to active duty in April after Creuzot dropped the criminal case against them. 


In the video, Dillard pins Timpa to the ground with his knee in his back for more than 13 minutes. Keeping someone face-down and bound at the arms and legs is known as the "prone position," a method of restraint that is controversial in policing. Several studies have shown it may increase the risk for asphyxiation and sudden death.


Officers should know the dangers of restraining someone in a prone position, said Erik Heipt, a Seattle lawyer who specializes in cases of in-custody deaths. 


“It’s just basic science: People can be essentially suffocated to death when they're lying on their stomachs in a prone position and there’s weight on their backs compressing their chest and diaphragm,” Heipt said. 


“As soon as [police] have someone handcuffed, they’ve got to know to turn them on their sides and be on the lookout for any compromised breathing issues.” 


For a person who is restrained and gasping for air, the instinct often is to panic and struggle.  Officers may interpret this as resisting and apply more pressure to the person’s back.  


“It’s a lethal cycle that happens,” Heipt said.
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    The Timpa family is mourning after the death of their son, Tony Timpa, who they allege in a lawsuit was killed by force used by Dallas Police Department officers. His mother says she treasures childhood photos of her only son.
     
    (Andy Jacobsohn/Staff Photographer)
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When officers first arrived at the scene, they told Timpa he would be OK. “We’re gonna get you some help, man,” one of the officers tells him. 


But within 15 minutes, Timpa’s not breathing and Dillard can be heard saying: “I hope I didn’t kill him.” 


Moments later, after the emergency medical technicians tell police he is dead, Dillard climbs out of the ambulance that holds Timpa’s lifeless body. 


Dillard turns to someone before shutting off his body camera and says, “Sorry. We tried.” 



RE: Bad Boys II - GMDino - 09-24-2019

 


RE: Bad Boys II - GMDino - 09-30-2019

On a related note:




Obviously trying to sow discontent where there was very little to be seen.


RE: Bad Boys II - Dill - 09-30-2019

(09-24-2019, 02:45 PM)GMDino Wrote:  

But how many of those 120 might have been actually guilty? 

We are going turn criminals back on the street just because a 100 or so innocent people were arrested?


RE: Bad Boys II - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 09-30-2019

(09-30-2019, 04:10 PM)Dill Wrote: But how many of those 120 might have been actually guilty? 

We are going turn criminals back on the street just because a 100 or so innocent people were arrested?

Who's making this argument?


RE: Bad Boys II - fredtoast - 09-30-2019

(09-30-2019, 05:45 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Who's making this argument?


I think Dil must be joking.

All the people in the video are white.


RE: Bad Boys II - Dill - 09-30-2019

(09-30-2019, 05:45 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Who's making this argument?

Someone who combines irony with humor.

(See post #329 for another example.)


RE: Bad Boys II - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 10-01-2019

(09-30-2019, 07:38 PM)Dill Wrote: Someone who combines irony with humor.

So, no one in this thread?

Quote:(See post #329 for another example.)

No thanks.  Yawn


RE: Bad Boys II - Dill - 10-01-2019

(10-01-2019, 12:16 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: So, no one in this thread?


No thanks.  Yawn

LOL no one works harder at appearing bored.


RE: Bad Boys II - bfine32 - 10-01-2019

Guilty of Murder

https://news.yahoo.com/dallas-jury-deliberating-fate-cop-153059351.html;_ylt=A2KLfRyBeJNd7C8AbTBXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--

Quote:A former Dallas police officer who fatally shot a black neighbor she mistook for an intruder was convicted of murder Tuesday by a jury deliberating for a second day.

Amber Guyger, who is white, had testified that she was exhausted from an extended shift when she walked into the apartment of Botham Jean thinking it was her own. Guyger, 31, said she believed Jean, 26, was a burglar and shot him in self-defense.



RE: Bad Boys II - fredtoast - 10-01-2019

(10-01-2019, 01:05 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Guilty of Murder

https://news.yahoo.com/dallas-jury-deliberating-fate-cop-153059351.html;_ylt=A2KLfRyBeJNd7C8AbTBXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--


I always thought there was something more to this story.  I don't see how she could have been so mistaken about the apartment, and I don't know why she went in gun blazing instead of just calling for help.

At least she was not on official duty as a police officer when she killed this guy.


RE: Bad Boys II - bfine32 - 10-01-2019

(10-01-2019, 01:20 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I always thought there was something more to this story.  I don't see how she could have been so mistaken about the apartment, and I don't know why she went in gun blazing instead of just calling for help.

At least she was not on official duty as a police officer when she killed this guy.

I agree. She stated she knew something was wrong when her door was unlocked, folks say that's when see should have called for help. I do think the charge of murder is quite harsh; however, it seems the jury thought she knew exactly what she was doing.


RE: Bad Boys II - fredtoast - 10-01-2019

(10-01-2019, 01:46 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I agree. She stated she knew something was wrong when her door was unlocked, folks say that's when see should have called for help. I do think the charge of murder is quite harsh; however, it seems the jury thought she knew exactly what she was doing.


There was "police equipment" found in his apartment, but I never heard any explanation for that.

Bright red doormat in front of his door that hers did not have.

As soon as she saw into the apartment she would have known it was not hers.

Claimed she was able to enter because his door was "defective" or "did not close properly".


RE: Bad Boys II - Belsnickel - 10-01-2019

(10-01-2019, 01:05 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Guilty of Murder

https://news.yahoo.com/dallas-jury-deliberating-fate-cop-153059351.html;_ylt=A2KLfRyBeJNd7C8AbTBXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--

I'm just baffled by the judge's instructions for the jury to take the Castle Doctrine into consideration. It wasn't her home.


RE: Bad Boys II - Dill - 10-01-2019

(10-01-2019, 01:46 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I agree. She stated she knew something was wrong when her door was unlocked, folks say that's when see should have called for help. I do think the charge of murder is quite harsh; however, it seems the jury thought she knew exactly what she was doing.

LOL "Who replaced my carpet, bought a new sofa, and painted my walls while I was out!"


RE: Bad Boys II - bfine32 - 10-04-2019

Another "twist" in the Guyger trail:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/atheist-group-says-texas-judge-131450082.html

Quote:A national atheist group has filed a formal complaint with the state of Texas after a judge in a Dallas court gave a Bible to former police officer Amber Guyger who was convicted of murdering her neighbor.

I could see these folk's point if the Judge had done this before sentencing, but WTF, did it change afterwards?


RE: Bad Boys II - fredtoast - 10-07-2019

(10-04-2019, 02:37 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Another "twist" in the Guyger trail:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/atheist-group-says-texas-judge-131450082.html


I could see these folk's point if the Judge had done this before sentencing, but WTF, did it change afterwards?


It was done in the courtroom in front of everyone.  Still in her judges robe and acting in official capacity.  You simply can not promote Christianity over other religions in those situations.