(05-30-2020, 07:05 AM)GMDino Wrote: Police didn't fire tear gas and rubber bullets at them either.

Quote:But I'm not saying the cops didn't realize the white folks were all just fakers who carry big guns to compensate for their own fears so they knew there wouldn't be trouble.

Quote:I'm saying there are images and videos of these same armed white folk screaming in the faces of the queens guard police officers who just stand there quietly.  But if you're just outside at 8:01 (or a news reporter) in MN right now expect to get shot with rubber bullets and paintballs.

(05-30-2020, 11:57 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Why is it these guys wear Kevlar vests, but never Kevlar helmets?  Do they subtract from the tacticool look or there are no vital organs located in the head which need protection?

(05-30-2020, 12:40 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: They also didn't the next day when armed black citizens showed up at the exact same building.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/07/michigan-lawmaker-armed-escort-rightwing-protest





Someone's projecting.  Your consistent mocking of people who think differently than you says much more about you than those you attempt to mock.


There are millions of images of police being screamed at by black protesters as well.  The formula is not a complex one.  If you demonstrate peacefully, even if the demonstration in full of anger, the police will not take action.  When you start throwing stones, burning cars/buildings and looting the response will be different, and it should be.

This right here is where the left leaning types go completely off the rails.  It's completely understandable to be outraged about Floyd's death and the manner in which it occurred.  It's completely understandable to defend the rage being expressed by many of the protesters.  It's completely batcrap insane to defend throwing bricks, burning cars and buildings and looting.

(05-30-2020, 12:45 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Im elated to see i was wrong as hell and uninformed on this one. 

(05-30-2020, 12:40 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: This right here is where the left leaning types go completely off the rails.  It's completely understandable to be outraged about Floyd's death and the manner in which it occurred.  It's completely understandable to defend the rage being expressed by many of the protesters.  It's completely batcrap insane to defend throwing bricks, burning cars and buildings and looting.

(05-30-2020, 01:10 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: You didn't hear about it, and many other similar incidents, because the news media no longer exists to report news and inform, it hasn't for some time now.  It now exists to sell ad revenue.  Because of this they only report on what they can sensationalize for as many clicks as possible.  As race is, and likely always will be, a huge hot button issue they will run any story they can put a racial twist on into the ground.  If a story doesn't support that agenda it will be ignored or back page news at best.

While I'm sure some will try and twist this post to make me sound like Alex Jones, simply be cognizant of this when reading or watching the news.  Just observe how often this rings true.  It's honestly disturbing and disheartening at the same time. 

(05-30-2020, 12:40 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: They also didn't the next day when armed black citizens showed up at the exact same building.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/07/michigan-lawmaker-armed-escort-rightwing-protest

Quote:Armed black citizens escort Michigan lawmaker to capitol after volatile rightwing protest
State representative Sarah Anthony says she wanted to highlight failure of policing after armed white protesters demonstrated

Quote:Story at a glance

• Hundreds of protestors opposed to the state’s coronavirus restrictions made their way into the state Capitol building last week, some armed with long guns and brandishing racist symbols.
• The security detail was made up of local black and Latino activists.
• Protests have erupted in many states across the U.S. with people demanding coronavirus restrictions be lifted and states reopen.
  

A black Michigan lawmaker was escorted to the state Capitol by armed guards Wednesday, after protestors carrying long guns descended on the building last week to rally against the state’s extension of stay-at-home orders meant to stop the spread of the coronavirus. 

Michigan state Rep. Sarah Anthony, a House Democrat whose district is in Lansing, was escorted by a security detail made up of local black and Latino activists who came together after some of the armed coronavirus protestors were seen brandishing racist symbols, according to Lansing City Pulse. 


The guards, made up of at least three black men carrying large rifles, escorted Anthony to an appropriations committee meeting.

The lawmaker told City Pulse she didn’t request the help, but welcomed the security. 

“We were all just appalled by the lack of support and lack of security that I had, that other legislators had, and the fact that a lot of the demonstrators last week were adorning many racist, anti-Semitic signage. I think it just triggered a lot of folks, especially African Americans,” she told the outlet.

“The majority of the protestors were white,” Anthony told City Pulse. “I’m still not exactly sure on the connection between the confederate flags and Nazi symbolism. They just had no connection to the stay-at-home orders. The fact they were carrying guns openly while we voted was unnerving.”

Anthony posted video from the April 30 protest against Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s extension of the statewide stay-at-home order to Facebook, prompting Michael Lynn Jr., a black Lansing firefighter and community activist, to organize the security detail for the legislator. 


“I could hear the fear in her voice during that protest,” Lynn told City Pulse. “It was the visual of her being that scared to go to work. It meant we had to do something. We came out here today to make sure we could provide some protection, even if it’s only just to make her feel better.” 


The “American Patriot Rally” started on the statehouse steps and included members of the Michigan Liberty Militia, who were armed with weapons and wore tactical gear with their faces partly covered, according to the Associated Press (AP). 


They made their way into the Capitol with several hundred protestors and some carried guns inside, which are allowed in the statehouse. 

Protests have occurred in many states across the U.S. with people demanding coronavirus restrictions be lifted and states reopen.

(05-30-2020, 12:40 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Someone's projecting.  Your consistent mocking of people who think differently than you says much more about you than those you attempt to mock.

(05-30-2020, 12:40 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: There are millions of images of police being screamed at by black protesters as well.  The formula is not a complex one.  If you demonstrate peacefully, even if the demonstration in full of anger, the police will not take action.  When you start throwing stones, burning cars/buildings and looting the response will be different, and it should be/

(05-30-2020, 12:40 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: This right here is where the left leaning types go completely off the rails.  It's completely understandable to be outraged about Floyd's death and the manner in which it occurred.  It's completely understandable to defend the rage being expressed by many of the protesters.  It's completely batcrap insane to defend throwing bricks, burning cars and buildings and looting.

(05-30-2020, 12:45 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Im elated to see i was wrong as hell and uninformed on this one. 

(05-30-2020, 01:25 PM)hollodero Wrote: I was about to say something quite similar to that. Just didn't want to touch that hot iron. But I agree.

Quote:I agree with that as well. With the jist of it, to be precise. I would stop a little short from where you're going. 

(05-30-2020, 01:51 PM)GMDino Wrote: Um, so here's the headline of the article you linked:

They came to protect a lawmaker...not *exactly* the same as what happened with the other protestors.

(05-30-2020, 02:05 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Maybe excusing is a better word to use than defending, although there certainly are people defending it as wel.




GM doesn't, but he's going to give an excellent example of it for me.

(05-30-2020, 02:14 PM)Dill Wrote: So "both sides" do it.   Almost.

(05-30-2020, 01:51 PM)GMDino Wrote: Um, so here's the headline of the article you linked:


They came to protect a lawmaker...not *exactly* the same as what happened with the other protestors.

Here's an article about it that isn't behind a paywall:

https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/equality/496792-armed-activists-escort-black-michigan-lawmaker-to-capitol



Sooo.....

Quote:Hmmm...

Quote:Hey SSF, why did that officer turn and fire at the reporter and cameraperson who were just covering the protests last night?  

Did they "throw a rock"?

Quote:How about the tear gas during the first days of protests?

Quote:Hey SSF, who defended the looters and vandalizers?

Quote:Thanks, I'll hang up and wait for you answer.  Unless you leave.  Then I'll never know.

(05-30-2020, 02:15 PM)GMDino Wrote: No one defended the looting and vandalism.  Your schtick is old.

Quote:Now I'm not gonna respond anymore so you can say you won!  Yay!

(05-30-2020, 02:05 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Maybe excusing is a better word to use than defending, although there certainly are people defending it as wel.

(05-30-2020, 02:27 PM)hollodero Wrote: There's all kind of weird stuff. Eg. I overheard Al Sharpton critisize the violent protesters for also destroying black-owned stores. I found this an utterly moronic thing to say.
Others blame white agitators, which I also consider weird. Others defend, others excuse. In reality, burning stuff down and looting is a) wrong and b) not helpful to the cause. It seems a real hard task to just state that.

(05-30-2020, 01:53 PM)GMDino Wrote: Not so much uniformed as the two situations were wildly different.  But it was a "media" (the ones you are told to not trust) that fit a narrative.