(06-20-2018, 05:45 PM)McC Wrote: This is not true at all.  Fast is just one thing he is.  He is a very good football player.

(06-21-2018, 02:08 AM)BengalChris Wrote: He caught 0% of the balls thrown to him last year while, at the same time, fumbling 100% of the times he touched the ball. That's with him appearing in 3 games.

As far as being a football player in the NFL goes, he's yet to show up. Didn't even learn the playbook last year. What kind of football player goes the whole year without actually learning the playbook?

And until he actually does show up, I'll continue to classify him as a guy who hasn't shown up as a football player.

(06-20-2018, 09:37 PM)Tiger Teeth Wrote: Dude, you just got fredtoasted.

(06-21-2018, 07:02 AM)HarleyDog Wrote:

(06-21-2018, 02:08 AM)BengalChris Wrote: He caught 0% of the balls thrown to him last year while, at the same time, fumbling 100% of the times he touched the ball. That's with him appearing in 3 games.

As far as being a football player in the NFL goes, he's yet to show up. Didn't even learn the playbook last year. What kind of football player goes the whole year without actually learning the playbook?

And until he actually does show up, I'll continue to classify him as a guy who hasn't shown up as a football player.

(06-20-2018, 07:17 PM)McC Wrote: And he's working his ass off too and everybody talks about that.  And he's back in Cali working on his game with TJ.  Talent, motivation, work ethic.  I get that people are upset about last year.  But what's the harm in giving him a chance?  What's not to like about him?

(06-21-2018, 08:42 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: Hoping to see him on the field, the first snap of the regular season, take a simple swing pass 75 yards for a TD.  Then Green goes off because the Colts turn their attention to Ross.

Man, I would be sooooo pumped.  

(06-21-2018, 02:08 AM)BengalChris Wrote: 1. He caught 0% of the balls thrown to him last year while, at the same time, fumbling 100% of the times he touched the ball. That's with him appearing in 3 games.

As far as being a football player in the NFL goes, he's yet to show up. 2. Didn't even learn the playbook last year. What kind of football player goes the whole year without actually learning the playbook?

And until he actually does show up, I'll continue to classify him as a guy who hasn't shown up as a football player.

(06-21-2018, 12:28 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: 1. Yeah, and what a big sample size that was. 2 targets and 1 fumble where the defender objectively got a perfect hit with his helmet on the ball. If this is what you consider evidence, you probably wanted to convict before the trial even started.

2. He wasn't allowed to participate in team activities until June 13th due to NFL rules (he had to wait for final exams). He was finishing 3 classes, so obviously he had less time time to cram his head in a playbook. Also, who said he didn't know it for "a whole year"? I've seen Ross imply he didn't know it when he arrived to the team. Not that he didn't know it deep into the season.

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I understand frustration over his rookie season, I really do. Who wouldn't be frustrated? That said, you have to look at everything objectively. He was obviously not 100% healthy, he got a very late start on team activities and immersing himself in the playbook - and this wasn't entirely his fault, it was just circumstances. Then you have a coordinator switch after 2 games last year... There was just a LOT working against Ross last year.

The 3 plays you mention prove zilch in the long run. With a full off-season and being 100% (knock on wood) - NOW is when we can fairly get a good idea of who he really is. 

(06-20-2018, 09:37 PM)Tiger Teeth Wrote: Dude, you just got fredtoasted.

lol@ 3 outta five years healthy..impressive

(06-21-2018, 03:12 PM)cooper Wrote: we needed two offensive linemen last year and the bengals pick often injured John Ross in the first round.. speed was not an issue in college..route recognition was

guy could not even run a simple down and out n the games he did participate in ..lewis benched him

but he will be great this year..LOL

wasted first round pick

(06-21-2018, 03:41 PM)sandwedge Wrote: What O-lineman was worth the 9th pick of that draft?

(06-21-2018, 03:41 PM)sandwedge Wrote: What O-lineman was worth the 9th pick of that draft?

(06-21-2018, 05:47 PM)Tiger Teeth Wrote: You're wasting your time with him, he hates Ross, and that isn't going to change.  Even if he does great this year.

(06-21-2018, 03:41 PM)sandwedge Wrote: What O-lineman was worth the 9th pick of that draft?

(06-21-2018, 06:22 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: There wasn't one. Maybe if we traded back, maybe.

But still, happy John Ross is a Bengal and i expect big things from him.


Probably correct Tiger Teeth.

(06-21-2018, 03:23 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Ross will deliver this year. I think he struggled a tad with too much and didn't handle it well. Now he's had uninterupted time to focus on Ross. Practicing with TJ, learning the playbook, working hard in practice. All signs this kid will come ready to play. Also, one thing we have as a team we didn't last year which will substantially help him out is confidence, pride and good vibes from the players. Last year, it was a sinking ship and they were all looking for the first life boat to get the hell out of town. Not all players felt that way, but you could tell the moral was lower than we've ever witnessed I'm sure.