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House conservatives file articles of impeachment against Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein - GMDino - 07-26-2018 https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/07/25/house-conservatives-file-articles-impeachment-against-rod-rosenstein/838899002/ Quote:Members of the conservative House Freedom Caucus escalated their battle against the Justice Department on Wednesday, filing articles of impeachment against Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein for what they allege is his failure to hand over documents to Congress about the Russia investigation. RE: House conservatives file articles of impeachment against Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein - michaelsean - 07-26-2018 Does anyone know if there is anything to their charges or are they just playing politics? Do they even have a right to see everything they requested? RE: House conservatives file articles of impeachment against Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein - jj22 - 07-26-2018 I honestly don't know. But I'd assume this was just politics. RE: House conservatives file articles of impeachment against Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein - GMDino - 07-26-2018 (07-26-2018, 10:57 AM)michaelsean Wrote: Does anyone know if there is anything to their charges or are they just playing politics? Do they even have a right to see everything they requested? After all this time you have to ask? ![]() It's politics. They probably don't have the votes for impeachment, they are just making noise to cover for Trump, etc. But I knew the "impeachment of Trump is hyperbole" crowd would get a kick out of making fun of their own for awhile. ![]() RE: House conservatives file articles of impeachment against Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein - hollodero - 07-26-2018 (07-26-2018, 10:57 AM)michaelsean Wrote: Does anyone know if there is anything to their charges or are they just playing politics? Do they even have a right to see everything they requested? I don't know, I speak anyway, deal with it. I sure hope they don't have that right. For there seems to be a tendency to leak everything they see. In more severe cases, there are memos written and unclassified. Yeah those guys should not have the right to see everything they want to see in an ongoing investigation. It would be odd if they were entitled to. PS The freedom caucus sure had a really proud moment there. RE: House conservatives file articles of impeachment against Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein - BmorePat87 - 07-26-2018 (07-26-2018, 10:57 AM)michaelsean Wrote: Do they even have a right to see everything they requested? If their subpoena is relevant to their legislative powers and an on-going investigation then they have the right to request it and hold anyone who ignores the subpoena in contempt of Congress. Of course, the person who then enforces that, the US attorney for DC, is part of the DOJ... RE: House conservatives file articles of impeachment against Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein - jj22 - 07-26-2018 If they did their investigation (really did which they didn't) wouldn't they uncover the same type of info Rosenstein has? Seems like the House @GOP are exposed for not really doing the investigation they claimed to have done (and cleared Trump of). if they are suddenly wanting more info. According to them their investigation is finished. https://www.wsj.com/articles/gop-led-house-panel-clears-trump-his-aides-in-russia-probe-1524839510 IF this is true and they completed their investigation, then they shouldn't still be after information about the investigation. Unless they are willing to reopen the investigation due to the "new" evidence the DOJ has. Which we all know they aren't. They probably want the evidence so they can give it to Trump which is really what Rosenstein is trying to avoid. Could you imagine if this was Dems doing all of this to cover for Hillary? Hillary had no problem tho testifying to (the Republican majority) Congress under oath for 16 hours. Like a soldier. She didn't need saved. That's how innocent people act. We are seeing how guilty people (and those who know they are guilty) act. RE: House conservatives file articles of impeachment against Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein - fredtoast - 07-26-2018 Just a symbolic move to stir up the base and fire up more conspiracy theories. Material in an ongoing investigation is usually protected. Like some one already said, they just want the info to give it to Trump. Once the investigation is closed they can have all the info. If anything was improper than can take it up then. So it is not like the DOJ is going to get away with anything by just delaying the release. RE: House conservatives file articles of impeachment against Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein - Au165 - 07-26-2018 Ryan has come out and says he doesn't agree. At least it seems there is some common sense emerging. RE: House conservatives file articles of impeachment against Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein - PhilHos - 07-26-2018 Suppose Meadows is right and Rosenstein ignored Congressional subpoenas. What is the normal procedure for commiting this "crime"? What is the normal punishment? Wouldn't it normally be a fine and/or prison time? Also, shouldn't we ALL want Rosenstein to get in trouble for ignoring Congressional subpoenas? (Assuming, of course, this claim is true) RE: House conservatives file articles of impeachment against Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein - Au165 - 07-26-2018 (07-26-2018, 02:56 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Suppose Meadows is right and Rosenstein ignored Congressional subpoenas. What is the normal procedure for commiting this "crime"? What is the normal punishment? Wouldn't it normally be a fine and/or prison time? Why didn't they hold him in contempt? RE: House conservatives file articles of impeachment against Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein - PhilHos - 07-26-2018 (07-26-2018, 03:02 PM)Au165 Wrote: Why didn't they hold him in contempt? Good question. I don't have an answer, but can anyone hold him in contempt? Or can that only come from a committee chairperson or someone higher? If it's the latter and this person decides for reasons of bias to not hold him in contempt, is the only course left for the rest of Congress to take? RE: House conservatives file articles of impeachment against Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein - Au165 - 07-26-2018 (07-26-2018, 03:11 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Good question. I don't have an answer, but can anyone hold him in contempt? Or can that only come from a committee chairperson or someone higher? If it's the latter and this person decides for reasons of bias to not hold him in contempt, is the only course left for the rest of Congress to take? The committee can I think. I feel like that would have been the appropriate actions and this is the political one. RE: House conservatives file articles of impeachment against Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein - PhilHos - 07-26-2018 (07-26-2018, 03:22 PM)Au165 Wrote: The committee can I think. I feel like that would have been the appropriate actions and this is the political one. That's why I asked. The article states that Meadows claimed Rosenstein is ignoring Congressional subpeonas. I know that doing so is a big no no, but I would think there would be other ways of "punishing" him without going for the impeachment option. RE: House conservatives file articles of impeachment against Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein - fredtoast - 07-26-2018 "Contempt of Congress" is not a criminal act as far as I know. So I am not sure what they can do to punish him. "Contempt of Court" is a crime, but a Congressional investigation is not a Judicial proceeding. At least I think that is how it works. RE: House conservatives file articles of impeachment against Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein - michaelsean - 07-26-2018 (07-26-2018, 06:04 PM)fredtoast Wrote: "Contempt of Congress" is not a criminal act as far as I know. So I am not sure what they can do to punish him. So it it doesn’t carry any penalty or anything? Now that I think about it, Congress probably shouldn’t be sending anyone to jail. RE: House conservatives file articles of impeachment against Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein - PhilHos - 07-27-2018 (07-26-2018, 09:43 PM)michaelsean Wrote: So it it doesn’t carry any penalty or anything? Now that I think about it, Congress probably shouldn’t be sending anyone to jail. And I think it's safe to say that NO American, conservative OR liberal, wants Congress to have this power. |