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White House bans CNN reporter from press conference - GMDino - 07-26-2018 https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/07/25/cnn-reporter-kaitlan-collins-banned-white-house-press-conference/838576002/ Quote:CNN says one of its reporters was banned from a White House event Wednesday after attempting to ask President Donald Trump a series of questions that were deemed "inappropriate." RE: White House bans CNN reporter from press conference - fredtoast - 07-26-2018 Quote: In 2009, the White House's position on Fox News was that it was "an opponent," at "war(!)" with the White House. And that they were not, in fact, a legitimate news organization. They were to be treated as fake news. It was White House policy. https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/01/11/obamas-white-house-2009-dont-pretend-fox-news-is-a-legitimate-news-organization/ RE: White House bans CNN reporter from press conference - michaelsean - 07-26-2018 They banned her from something she wasn't going to. That'll show her. RE: White House bans CNN reporter from press conference - Goalpost - 07-26-2018 I think the timing of the questions matter. So... he was with the EU guy. Maybe that was the story. I remember this one from CNN also. http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/04/02/cnn-star-jim-acosta-slammed-for-harsh-inflammatory-questions-to-trump-in-front-children.html So... yes, I think the press claiming their 1st amendment rights can still look ridiculous. RE: White House bans CNN reporter from press conference - GMDino - 07-26-2018 (07-26-2018, 01:40 PM)fredtoast Wrote: In 2009, the White House's position on Fox News was that it was "an opponent," at "war(!)" with the White House. And that they were not, in fact, a legitimate news organization. Did they ban the reporters? Did Obama never go on FOX for an interview? Did they say, repeatedly, that every news organization that wrote anything negative about them was "fake news"? Heck, the words "fake news" were not used in your link except by the guy writing the piece. RE: White House bans CNN reporter from press conference - PhilHos - 07-26-2018 (07-26-2018, 01:40 PM)fredtoast Wrote: In 2009, the White House's position on Fox News was that it was "an opponent," at "war(!)" with the White House. And that they were not, in fact, a legitimate news organization. I'm ... confused. Is fred ... is fred defending Donald Trump? Someone hold me. I'm scared. Rep, fred. RE: White House bans CNN reporter from press conference - BmorePat87 - 07-26-2018 She was the acting "pool reporter" at the European Commission event, meaning she was representing all of the TV networks and was asking questions agreed upon by her (CNN), Fox, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, etc. She did exactly what every reporter does, she shouted out questions and hoped that he would answer. RE: White House bans CNN reporter from press conference - bfine32 - 07-26-2018 It seems here questions were deemed inappropriate for the situation. he was walking with the President of the EU and she was shouting questions that did not pertain the relationships between the US and EU. Seems the WH just said; this is not the venue to answer those questions. I suppose we would need to know if she had asked question at a press conference that were no germane to that press conference in the past and/or became disruptive. RE: White House bans CNN reporter from press conference - PhilHos - 07-26-2018 (07-26-2018, 04:17 PM)bfine32 Wrote: It seems here questions were deemed inappropriate for the situation. he was walking with the President of the EU and she was shouting questions that did not pertain the relationships between the US and EU. Seems the WH just said; this is not the venue to answer those questions. Why are you against a free and open press? RE: White House bans CNN reporter from press conference - GMDino - 07-26-2018 (07-26-2018, 04:19 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Why are you against a free and open press? Fair question. Is there a rule that you can only ask question about the event? Or does this kind of thing happen all the time and the current thin skinned POTUS hates CNN? RE: White House bans CNN reporter from press conference - PhilHos - 07-26-2018 (07-26-2018, 04:52 PM)GMDino Wrote: Fair question. Is it denying a free and open press if the White House bans a single reporter from a press conference that many other reporters will be at? Side note: does it bug you that Trump is acting Obama-like when it comes to his treatmen tof a particular cable news channel? RE: White House bans CNN reporter from press conference - GMDino - 07-26-2018 (07-26-2018, 04:55 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Is it denying a free and open press if the White House bans a single reporter from a press conference that many other reporters will be at? 1) Could be. If the trend continues to only allow "friendly" media. 2) No one answered my questions above: Did he refuse to take a question from anyone but friendly media? Did he appear on FOX to be interviewed? did he repeatedly (weekly) call every source of media that disagreed with him "fake news" and "an enemy of the people"? So I don't see the correlation except to try and bring Obama into what the Trump admin is currently doing. RE: White House bans CNN reporter from press conference - PhilHos - 07-26-2018 (07-26-2018, 05:02 PM)GMDino Wrote: 1) Could be. If the trend continues to only allow "friendly" media. 1) So only Fox News is present at all press conferences held by the president or the White House? 2) Don't know. Don't know. Didn't use the words 'fake news' but fred just showed you that he called them the enemy and that they weren't a "legitimate news organization". The correlation is that Obama treated Fox News the way Trump is treating CNN. You didn't have a problem with that then, but now you do. Don't worry about it, though, when it comes to Trump, we know your opinion isn't worht the paper it's printed on due to your hatred and bias. RE: White House bans CNN reporter from press conference - GMDino - 07-26-2018 (07-26-2018, 05:12 PM)PhilHos Wrote: 1) So only Fox News is present at all press conferences held by the president or the White House? (07-26-2018, 05:02 PM)GMDino Wrote: 1) Could be. If the trend continues to only allow "friendly" media. Perhaps for clarity sake: If the trend continues and they eventually only allow "friendly" media. (07-26-2018, 05:12 PM)PhilHos Wrote: 2) Don't know. Don't know. Didn't use the words 'fake news' but fred just showed you that he called them the enemy and that they weren't a "legitimate news organization". So you don't know if Obama did what Trump does but they are the same I shouldn't have a problem with it because I didn't have a problem (that you "know") with Obama doing what Trump is doing. If he did it. Do you still feel bad every time you have to defend Trump? RE: White House bans CNN reporter from press conference - PhilHos - 07-26-2018 (07-26-2018, 05:22 PM)GMDino Wrote: There's a different message between saying "if the trend continues TO" and "if the trend continues AND". And what trend are we talking about? (07-26-2018, 05:22 PM)GMDino Wrote: So you don't know if Obama did what Trump does but they are the same I shouldn't have a problem with it because I didn't have a problem (that you "know") with Obama doing what Trump is doing. If he did it. I don't know if Obama did ALL the things to Fox that you are accussing Trump of doing. I do know that Obama basically called Fox News "fake news" and that he called them the enemy. You have a problem with Trump doing that. But not Obama. (07-26-2018, 05:22 PM)GMDino Wrote: Do you still feel bad every time you have to defend Trump? Yes. RE: White House bans CNN reporter from press conference - GMDino - 07-26-2018 (07-26-2018, 05:39 PM)PhilHos Wrote: There's a different message between saying "if the trend continues TO" and "if the trend continues AND". (07-26-2018, 05:22 PM)GMDino Wrote: If the trend continues and they eventually only allow "friendly" media. "don't know"..."basically"...just the same as Trump. Maybe just stop defending Trump at every turn (and assuming he and Obama are equal in this case) and you'll feel better. RE: White House bans CNN reporter from press conference - bfine32 - 07-26-2018 Not to "defend Trump" but did he ban the reporter from the News Conference? RE: White House bans CNN reporter from press conference - BmorePat87 - 07-26-2018 (07-26-2018, 04:55 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Is it denying a free and open press if the White House bans a single reporter from a press conference that many other reporters will be at? only one member of the press has to be targeted for the freedom of the press to be strained. Likewise, targeting one religion but leaving all others would still be a violation of freedom of religion. Arresting one peaceful and lawful protestor but leaving 20 others is still a violation of freedom of speech. The real question you should be asking is “is the president required to let all members of the press in?” If hes not legally required then it’s not a violation. RE: White House bans CNN reporter from press conference - TheLeonardLeap - 07-26-2018 (07-26-2018, 01:40 PM)fredtoast Wrote: In 2009, the White House's position on Fox News was that it was "an opponent," at "war(!)" with the White House. And that they were not, in fact, a legitimate news organization. RE: White House bans CNN reporter from press conference - GMDino - 07-27-2018 So, in general, the rest of the press has sided against the Trump admin for this move. Except Lou Dobbs.
I wanted to fact check that from 2012: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/lou-dobbs-is-a-modern-day-jekyll-and-hyde Quote:When Barack Obama was president, Fox Business’ Lou Dobbs was very pro-news media. But now that Donald Trump is president, Dobbs is basically the exact opposite. One yelling questions, one interrupting the prepared statement. One pulled aside and banned, one spoken directly to and the question answered anyway. Yep, Obama was just horrible with the press just like Trump. |