Quote:Hillary Clinton set the internet ablaze on Sunday when she told CBS’s “Sunday Morning” that the affair between her husband, former President Bill Clinton, and then-White House intern Monica Lewinsky was not an abuse of power.

The former secretary of state’s remark ― as well as her suggestion that her husband’s sexual relationship with Lewinsky was consensual because Lewinsky had been “an adult” at the time ― appeared at odds with the Me Too movement Clinton herself has championed.

Lewinsky, who was 22 at the time of the affair, previously said that her sexual encounters with Bill Clinton had been consensual, but has reconsidered that view recently. Several other women have accused the former president of sexual misconduct going as far back as the 1970s, which he has vehemently denied.

(10-15-2018, 08:27 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Hill's slap in the face to women's rights movements

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/major-women-apos-groups-silent-192215781.html


I wonder when the outrage from the left and the liberal groups will start.

(10-15-2018, 08:47 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I've actually seen quite a few on Twitter talking about this today and groaning about how wrong she was with these comments. I'm with them on this, it was a definite abuse of power.

(10-15-2018, 08:27 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Hill's slap in the face to women's rights movements

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/major-women-apos-groups-silent-192215781.html


I wonder when the outrage from the left and the liberal groups will start.

(10-15-2018, 08:27 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Hill's slap in the face to women's rights movements

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/major-women-apos-groups-silent-192215781.html


I wonder when the outrage from the left and the liberal groups will start.

(10-15-2018, 10:37 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Actually part of me says "hell yeah". Stand by your man and don't automatically label him the bad guy. I'm just struck by the hypocrisy of those that would be losing their shit if Trump would have said those exact same words about the incident.

And there's another small part of me that hopes the DNC is stupid enough to throw all their eggs in the Clinton basket again in 2020. She has to have something on them.

(10-16-2018, 09:04 AM)fredtoast Wrote: This issue is not as simple as either side wants to claim.

Everytime a person has a relationship with a superior it is not rape or sexual assault.  That is absurd.  Some times it is 100% consensual for both parties.

So I need to know a lot more about what happened between Bill and Monica before I just make a blanket judgement based on what some other group is saying.  Just because #Metoo and the Republicans say it was a sexual assault does not mean it was.

(10-16-2018, 09:04 AM)fredtoast Wrote: This issue is not as simple as either side wants to claim.

Everytime a person has a relationship with a superior it is not rape or sexual assault. That is absurd. Some times it is 100% consensual for both parties.

So I need to know a lot more about what happened between Bill and Monica before I just make a blanket judgement based on what some other group is saying. Just because #Metoo and the Republicans say it was a sexual assault does not mean it was.

(10-16-2018, 09:18 AM)Goalpost Wrote: Plus he pointed his finger and lied about it.  I did not have...

(10-16-2018, 12:19 AM)Dill Wrote: Who would be "losing their shit" if Trump had an affair with an intern who showed him her thong and he called the follow up "consensual"--as did the intern?

Still looking for some kind of leverage, some point of vantage from which the Trump presidency doesn't look as bad as it is.

(10-16-2018, 12:09 AM)GMDino Wrote: Well she's wrong, but luckily it gives you folks on the right something new to be angry about.  That being angry at "the left" for not being outraged enough...even if some are.  

Seriously you guys look so dumb with this stuff.  Clinton was old news  a year ago.  But it's a talking point to rile up people I guess.

(10-15-2018, 10:37 PM)bfine32 Wrote: And there's another small part of me that hopes the DNC is stupid enough to throw all their eggs in the Clinton basket again in 2020. She has to have something on them.

(10-16-2018, 11:13 AM)bfine32 Wrote: I'll take you at your word that you would not go off the deep end if it were discovered today that Trump had an affair with a 22 year old intern. 

This is no leverage to make Trump presidency not took bad. It is pointing to the hypocrisy of Hillary Clinton and the liberal causes. 

(10-16-2018, 11:25 AM)hollodero Wrote: Well that scares me. I don't quite understand how anyone can "hope" that who isn't an ardent Trump supporter.

@topic, two things I do not get. First, how quickly really anyone, including a washed-up, failed presidential candidate, is always portrayed as spokesperson of the left, speaking for an entirety, representing any liberal's view. Second thing I don't get, this urge to politicize everything #metoo and other things. There would be zero need to label the movement liberal or conservative or anything for that matter. Now I feel it's gotten "the enemy" for the right and hence, ridicule the topic. Same with kids who don't want to get shot and with just about anything really.

(10-16-2018, 11:33 AM)Dill Wrote: What "hypocrisy" do you suppose you have identified?  Take it out of Fox world with some actual data.

(10-16-2018, 11:16 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Assuming you don't believe she's considering a 2020 run

(10-16-2018, 11:16 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Hate when we look dumb. 

(10-16-2018, 11:42 AM)GMDino Wrote: I don't know and I don't care.  The right (yours and Trump's too) obsession with Clinton is just funny.



I wish this was true....then you'd stop.

(10-16-2018, 11:48 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Damn, one would think you're a little more in tune with the political landscape.

It's not the Right that continually sticks a microphone in front of her face.

Nah, I wouldn't stop, because then I'd miss your brilliant retorts.