Quote:U.S. President Donald Trump said on Monday he had read parts of a U.S. government report projecting that climate change will cost the country's economy billions of dollars by the end of the century, but he does not believe the economic impacts will be devastating.


"I've seen it, I've read some of it, and it's fine," he told reporters at the White House. Asked about severe economic impacts, he said, "I don't believe it."



Last year, Trump announced he would withdraw the United States from the 2015 Paris Deal to combat climate change. He has also rolled back Obama-era environmental and climate protections to boost production of domestic fossil fuels.


The congressionally mandated report, written with the help of more than a dozen U.S. government agencies and departments, said the effects of climate change would undermine human health, damage infrastructure, limit water availability, alter coastlines and increase costs in various industries.



The report also said projections of damage could change if greenhouse gas emissions were curbed, although many of the impacts of climate change, like powerful storms, droughts and flooding, have already begun.

(11-27-2018, 01:07 PM)GMDino Wrote: Because why would the POTUS trust the government?

(11-27-2018, 01:24 PM)Dill Wrote: Remember, these scientists are probably the same guys who claim Putin interfered with the elections, when for all we really know it was China or that 400-pound guy.

Same with climate change. Could be that guy or the Chinese. 

Don't trust the fake news.

(11-27-2018, 01:24 PM)Dill Wrote: Remember, these scientists are probably the same guys who claim Putin interfered with the elections, when for all we really know it was China or that 400-pound guy.

Same with climate change. Could be that guy or the Chinese. 

Don't trust the fake news.

(11-27-2018, 03:20 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: We had a state senator come speak to our class yesterday and her response to a question on climate change was basically: Why should our state try to change something when we need the whole world on board?

Kind of sums up the attitude: well if I don't think China is going to do anything, why would I even try to do something?

(11-27-2018, 02:22 PM)hollodero Wrote: What you're seeing and reading is not what's happening.

Reports of melting ice caps are just placed to promote a leftist Soros agenda. Which mainly consists of hate and wishing to hit the USA in the kneecap.

(11-27-2018, 03:20 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: We had a state senator come speak to our class yesterday and her response to a question on climate change was basically: Why should our state try to change something when we need the whole world on board?

Kind of sums up the attitude: well if I don't think China is going to do anything, why would I even try to do something?

(11-27-2018, 03:55 PM)Dill Wrote: Comes down to Trump hate and liberals who don't want the U.S. to succeed.

(11-27-2018, 04:21 PM)fredtoast Wrote: China is investing ten times as much money in solar power research and development as the United States.  While we suck on the drying teat of fossil feuls they are preparing for the future.  and when it gets here they will own our asses.

(11-27-2018, 05:44 PM)hollodero Wrote: Yup, they're just America-hating globalists, and dumb people who believe in climate change even though it snows and everyone knows the planet is just moving closer to the sun. Also Al Gore said something wrong once. 
And we all know scientists worldwide are just into that science thing to get bought off for producing fraudulent results to promote the Soros agenda.

(11-27-2018, 06:45 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: I believe she said something along the lines of "China is using tons of coal but we can't?"

(11-27-2018, 07:30 PM)Dill Wrote: Scientists know they get more money if they say outrageous stuff.  And publishers who are liberal and mostly New Yorkers, won't publish their work if they tell the truth.  Until we start defunding universities and other knowledge institutions, nothing will change.

The extractive industries must finally band together to influence the press, politicians and public opinion to combat the special interests defending the environment.

Quote:In a wide-ranging interview, President Donald Trump confronted why he's voiced skepticism on a climate change report issued over the Thanksgiving Day weekend, telling the Washington Post "I don’t see" the devastating climate change effects warned about in the report. 


"One of the problems that a lot of people like myself, we have very high levels of intelligence, but we're not necessarily such believers," the president said of climate change. "You look at our air and our water and it's right now at a record clean." 


The 1,600-page National Climate Assessment, issued by the Trump administration, details the climate and economic impacts U.S. residents will see if drastic action is not taken to address climate change.


The report notes in a worst-case scenario, top scientists from 13 federal agencies say climate change – primarily caused by human activity – could deliver a 10 percent hit to the nation's GDP by the end of the century. 

"As to whether or not it’s man-made and whether or not the effects that you’re talking about are there, I don’t see it — not nearly like it is," Trump said. "Do we want clean water? Absolutely. Do we want clean air to breathe? Absolutely."

The president talked about how other nations have "incredibly dirty" air and water, which in turn would eventually affect the U.S. He also used the discussion to segue into the California wildfires and forest maintenance. 

Quote:White House press secretary Sarah Sanders denounced a new climate-change report as "not data driven" and "not based on facts," sharpening the Trump administration's repudiation of the document crafted by 13 federal agencies.


Sanders denounced the National Climate Assessment during a Tuesday press briefing, defending President Trump's publicly expressed doubt about its warning of potentially severe ocean-level rises and associated economic costs.

"You have to look at the fact that this report is based on the most extreme modeled scenario, which contradicts long-established trends," Sanders said. "Modeling the climate is an extremely complicated science that is never exact."


Sanders added: "We think this is the most extreme version, and it's not based on facts. It's not data driven. We'd like to see something that is more data driven. It's based on modeling."


However, Sanders said Trump is committed to ensuring the country has "the safest, cleanest air and water."
The climate assessment, released Friday, was spearheaded by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, with assistance from other agencies, including NASA.


The report found that wildfires have worsened in severity due to climate change and that more than 13 million U.S. residents may need to evacuate due to rising ocean levels in 80 years.


Trump told reporters on the South Lawn of the White House Monday that, "I've read some of it, and it's fine," but said he did not accept forecasts of a devastating economic impact.



"I don't believe it," Trump said.

(11-28-2018, 11:34 AM)michaelsean Wrote: So who was first to lose a nut?

(11-28-2018, 10:07 AM)GMDino Wrote: It gets better.

The administration of "alternate facts".

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/white-house-federal-climate-change-report-not-based-on-facts/ar-BBQaiNl?ocid=sf&fbclid=IwAR0-XXLzO0Wpjp2eG8xLiVgXqEqEqoa4DUwujW_pKFEJ5EHa-oE7-4QVgh8

(11-28-2018, 01:35 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Not data driven?! Does she not know how extrapolation works? Does she actually know and think the rest of the country is stupid?