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Senzel Vs. Winker - Circleville Guy - 01-13-2019
The two look to be night and day as fielders but both look to have similar hitting capabilities. It’s a simple question, who do you see as having a better career as a hitter. I’m gonna go with Winker myself.
RE: Senzel Vs. Winker - Yojimbo - 01-14-2019
Tough to say, since both seem to have a knack for getting injured. So, whichever one can stay healthy?
RE: Senzel Vs. Winker - bengalfan74 - 01-14-2019
I'll say Winker as well.
RE: Senzel Vs. Winker - CJD - 01-14-2019
I think Winker will be a better player at reaching base.
I think Senzel will be a more complete player (slugging, fielding, base running).
RE: Senzel Vs. Winker - Circleville Guy - 01-15-2019
(01-14-2019, 10:26 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: I think Winker will be a better player at reaching base.
I think Senzel will be a more complete player (slugging, fielding, base running).
I’d agree with that. I think that Senzel may be more of a doubles hitter than a homerun hitter too though. He will play half of those games at Great American, so who knows.
RE: Senzel Vs. Winker - guyofthetiger - 01-15-2019
We know Winker can hit major league pitching. Senzel has not tried it yet so I've seen players do well in the minors but could not make the jump to the majors. We'll see.
RE: Senzel Vs. Winker - Circleville Guy - 01-15-2019
(01-15-2019, 11:46 AM)guyofthetiger Wrote: We know Winker can hit major league pitching. Senzel has not tried it yet so I've seen players do well in the minors but could not make the jump to the majors. We'll see.
Could you imagine if Senzel turns ou to be a 270 hitter and they turned down trading him for an ace? Everything points to him being a 300 hitter but nothing is for sure. I remember people wanting Scooter traded, thinking that Senzel would automatically hit 300, with 25 homeruns. He could but the pitching and pressure will be a little different. I do think that it was right to shop scooter but there is at least some risk in doing so. I’d like to see a full season with the Vertigo under control too.
RE: Senzel Vs. Winker - CJD - 01-15-2019
(01-15-2019, 08:52 PM)Circleville Guy Wrote: Could you imagine if Senzel turns ou to be a 270 hitter and they turned down trading him for an ace? Everything points to him being a 300 hitter but nothing is for sure. I remember people wanting Scooter traded, thinking that Senzel would automatically hit 300, with 25 homeruns. He could but the pitching and pressure will be a little different. I do think that it was right to shop scooter but there is at least some risk in doing so. I’d like to see a full season with the Vertigo under control too.
I think being a 270 hitter wouldn't be horrific, depending on how good he was in other aspects of the game.
Bryce Harper is a career .279 hitter, but he also has a .388 career OBP and .512 career SLG, for a career .900 OPS.
Suarez is a .264/.341/.447/.788 career hitter.
Javier Baez .267/.309/.470/.779
Matt Carpenter .274/.377/.470/.847
If Senzel's floor is a .270 hitter, I'd say we'd be pretty damn happy with that haha.
RE: Senzel Vs. Winker - Circleville Guy - 01-16-2019
(01-15-2019, 11:24 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: I think being a 270 hitter wouldn't be horrific, depending on how good he was in other aspects of the game.
Bryce Harper is a career .279 hitter, but he also has a .388 career OBP and .512 career SLG, for a career .900 OPS.
Suarez is a .264/.341/.447/.788 career hitter.
Javier Baez .267/.309/.470/.779
Matt Carpenter .274/.377/.470/.847
If Senzel's floor is a .270 hitter, I'd say we'd be pretty damn happy with that haha.
I can agree with that, that’s if he has a good OBP and solid slugging percentage. They are respectable numbers but not superstar numbers. I’d rather have control of an Ace than a player with that line though.
RE: Senzel Vs. Winker - Goalpost - 01-16-2019
Only Vlad's boy has a higher hit grade than Senzel who carries a 70 hit grade.
http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2018?list=prospects
RE: Senzel Vs. Winker - Circleville Guy - 01-16-2019
(01-16-2019, 08:54 AM)Goalpost Wrote: Only Vlad's boy has a higher hit grade than Senzel who carries a 70 hit grade.
http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2018?list=prospects
And that should translate in the bigs but there are no guarantees. He probably will be good, how good is the question. It worries me that he had more than 1 bout with vertigo.
RE: Senzel Vs. Winker - grampahol - 01-17-2019
There have been more than a few players who performed great at the minor league level only to fall completely flat in the bigs. Until we actually see him in the bigs there's no way of knowing exactly what he can do. The big knock on Winker is his fielding weakness. He's not the fastest guy to ever cover the outfield. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario with Senzel. Too early and he may have real problems. Too late and he'll have wasted to much time toiling in the minor leagues.