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Bobby Hart Contract Numbers - Okeana - 03-13-2019
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8">Corrected Bobby Hart 2020 numbers: $1.85 million base. $1 million roster bonus due on 3rd day of LY. $500K workout bonus. Roster Bonus of $31,250 per game on 46-man up to $500K. Up to $500K of NLTBEs available for playtime. $1M playtime escalator available.
— Katherine Terrell (@Kat_Terrell) March 13, 2019
So yeah still a terrible signing, but numbers aren't bad considering its a low-risk high reward contract. Basically makes him a cheap starter and highly paid backup.
So cap hits of $5.4 million, $4.85 million and $5.9 million for Bobby Hart, $7.4 million in cash this year
— Katherine Terrell (@Kat_Terrell) March 13, 2019
putting this outside the main thread for those who don't want to read 20 pages of complaints.
RE: Bobby Hart Contract Numbers - fredtoast - 03-13-2019
Three years $16.15 million.
Where did the $21 million number come from?
RE: Bobby Hart Contract Numbers - Hoofhearted - 03-13-2019
(03-13-2019, 12:49 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Three years $16.15 million.
Where did the $21 million number come from?
Possible total earnings with escalators
RE: Bobby Hart Contract Numbers - Okeana - 03-13-2019
yeah here is the full details on ST. 1 year option on the contract
what this tells me is they will draft an OT or multiple this year they can shed this contract next year with all guaranteed paid this year.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cincinnati-bengals/bobby-hart-16952/
RE: Bobby Hart Contract Numbers - sandwedge - 03-13-2019
(03-13-2019, 12:55 PM)Okeana Wrote: yeah here is the full details on ST. 1 year option on the contract
what this tells me is they will draft an OT or multiple this year they can shed this contract next year with all guaranteed paid this year.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cincinnati-bengals/bobby-hart-16952/
Actually think that is a pretty smart contract. I also agree that OL in the first 2 days of the draft is still in play.
RE: Bobby Hart Contract Numbers - Synric - 03-13-2019
(03-13-2019, 12:49 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Three years $16.15 million.
Where did the $21 million number come from?
The Preston Brown signing is the same we dont know the numbers yet but its 3 years 21 mil with incentives and escalators...
RE: Bobby Hart Contract Numbers - Okeana - 03-13-2019
not gonna lie I feel a lot better about this signing considering how thin we are at tackle. Yes, he sucks, but I could also see them making a play for another guy in free agency. I expect them to also front load a contract for Tyler Boyd this offseason while restructuring AJ Green to 3 or 4 more years.
RE: Bobby Hart Contract Numbers - fredtoast - 03-13-2019
(03-13-2019, 12:51 PM)Hoofhearted Wrote: Possible total earnings with escalators
What are the escalators? I don't see any.
Here are the contract details
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cincinnati-bengals/bobby-hart-16952/
RE: Bobby Hart Contract Numbers - NKURyan - 03-13-2019
You mean to say people were overreacting here? NO WAY.
RE: Bobby Hart Contract Numbers - Okeana - 03-13-2019
(03-13-2019, 12:59 PM)fredtoast Wrote: What are the escalators? I don't see any.
Here are the contract details
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cincinnati-bengals/bobby-hart-16952/
contract notes
RE: Bobby Hart Contract Numbers - fredtoast - 03-13-2019
(03-13-2019, 01:02 PM)Okeana Wrote: contract notes
Appears to me that all the bonus money listed in the notes is already accounted for in the contract details.
I am not trying to argue here. I am just trying to get an understanding of what is going on.
RE: Bobby Hart Contract Numbers - Sled21 - 03-13-2019
Damn, I came here to hear more front office bashing and moaning about how the new staff is a bunch of losers, and you ruined it...….. just ruined it......
RE: Bobby Hart Contract Numbers - Wyche'sWarrior - 03-13-2019
Yeah, not too bad, thanks for the research.
RE: Bobby Hart Contract Numbers - Synric - 03-13-2019
(03-13-2019, 01:05 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Appears to me that all the bonus money listed in the notes is already accounted for in the contract details.
I am not trying to argue here. I am just trying to get an understanding of what is going on.
They aren't listed until they hit them and they are usually things like bonuses for making the playoffs etc. Andre Smith had them about weight lol.
RE: Bobby Hart Contract Numbers - Okeana - 03-13-2019
(03-13-2019, 01:05 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Appears to me that all the bonus money listed in the notes is already accounted for in the contract details.Sorry
I am not trying to argue here. I am just trying to get an understanding of what is going on.
https://overthecap.com/player/bobby-hart/4074/
" Bobby Hart signed a three year, $16.15 million contract with the Bengals. Hart received $5.5 million in guarantees which includes a $3 million signing bonus. $500,000 per year is tied toward per game bonuses. There are an additional $5 million in incentives based on performance."
RE: Bobby Hart Contract Numbers - RunKijanaRun - 03-13-2019
A "playtime escalator" sounds like something little girls should have in a dollhouse.
RE: Bobby Hart Contract Numbers - XenoMorph - 03-13-2019
(03-13-2019, 12:55 PM)Okeana Wrote: yeah here is the full details on ST. 1 year option on the contract
what this tells me is they will draft an OT or multiple this year they can shed this contract next year with all guaranteed paid this year.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cincinnati-bengals/bobby-hart-16952/
looks like a great contract with the details released on the teams side... Mostly incentive base and we can cut bait with little loss next year if we choose.
RE: Bobby Hart Contract Numbers - XenoMorph - 03-13-2019
(03-13-2019, 01:09 PM)Synric Wrote: They aren't listed until they hit them and they are usually things like bonuses for making the playoffs etc. Andre Smith had them about weight lol.
Dalton has them for playoff wins.
eifert had them for playing time... They are used all the time.
Only down side is you have to keep that $ available in the case they earn it... but if they don't it rolls over.
RE: Bobby Hart Contract Numbers - BengalChris - 03-13-2019
(03-13-2019, 01:16 PM)RunKijanaRun Wrote: A "playtime escalator" sounds like something little girls should have in a dollhouse.
Some of these grown men do behave, and play, like little girls. Maybe that's where the language came from.
In all seriousness, it's too bad the team doesn't release all the details of contracts at the time of the announcement so that people can understand what they mean by $7M per year for a player.
RE: Bobby Hart Contract Numbers - sandwedge - 03-13-2019
(03-13-2019, 01:06 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Damn, I came here to hear more front office bashing and moaning about how the new staff is a bunch of losers, and you ruined it...….. just ruined it......
