(05-22-2019, 10:27 PM)NKURyan Wrote: http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26800703/nfl-asks-teams-stop-oklahoma-drill-others?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

Thoughts? Sensible change, or NFL overreach?

(05-22-2019, 10:45 PM)pally Wrote: Sensible change.  The risk of injury far outweighs the negligible benefits.  Marvin did away with it several years ago and I can't imagine Zak ever wanting to reinstate it,  so it has no impact for the Bengals

(05-22-2019, 10:45 PM)pally Wrote: Sensible change.  The risk of injury far outweighs the negligible benefits.  Marvin did away with it several years ago and I can't imagine Zak ever wanting to reinstate it,  so it has no impact for the Bengals

(05-23-2019, 10:16 AM)XenoMorph Wrote: yes but at the same time they gotta practice hitting and tackling to do it well come regular season

(05-22-2019, 10:45 PM)pally Wrote: Sensible change.  The risk of injury far outweighs the negligible benefits.  Marvin did away with it several years ago and I can't imagine Zak ever wanting to reinstate it,  so it has no impact for the Bengals

(05-23-2019, 11:16 AM)pally Wrote: then actually practice hitting and tackling in game-type situations, not in a cage match extravaganza.  If this drill was actually useful in evaluating players abilities, teaching skills, or game performance, it would be more than a one time camp deal and every team would have been using it.  Coaches stopped using it for a reason.

(05-23-2019, 10:16 AM)XenoMorph Wrote: yes but at the same time they gotta practice hitting and tackling to do it well come regular season

(05-23-2019, 11:16 AM)pally Wrote: then actually practice hitting and tackling in game-type situations, not in a cage match extravaganza.  If this drill was actually useful in evaluating players abilities, teaching skills, or game performance, it would be more than a one time camp deal and every team would have been using it.  Coaches stopped using it for a reason.

(05-23-2019, 12:37 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: the drill is about shedding your block and making a tackle on the RB  


something our LBers need to do every day after last year.

(05-23-2019, 09:09 PM)Bengalitis Wrote: Rather than hitting & tackling, which they know how to do and do well for the most part, I want them to be running 5 miles daily and spending half the day conditioning. To be the most fit team in the NFL. I have a feeling that our team was probably one of the lowest fit teams in the NFL specially towards the end of Marvin's tenure. If you are not in great shape in the NFL, once you're tired = mistakes. Everytime we play the steelers, i get the feeling they are always better conditioned than we are.

(05-24-2019, 07:34 AM)Bilbo Saggins Wrote: I don't remember ever hearing about a player getting hurt during an Oklahoma drill.  Maybe they should look into how the Steelers still insist on headbutting people and using headlock tackles rather than clamp down on a random practice drill.

(05-24-2019, 01:38 AM)bengaloo Wrote: I'm hoping the XFL works out at least enough to push the NFL into getting rid of some of the more garbage rules and get back to a tougher brand of football. It seems the violence of the game is what has largely been responsible for the NFL getting so huge in the first place. I know very few fans who like the way its heading.

(05-23-2019, 04:06 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: This drill is about none of those things.  

I hate it because it's just another example of the NFL becoming soft.

Yes, you do need to shed the block and tackle, but it's about intensity, wanting it more than the opponent, and about being fired up.

There was one of our players that ran the drill years ago and it was a small defender that knocked the blocker on his ass and didn't even make the tackle (I believe the back had to run outside of the pads though, so technically he did win), and everyone was saying "what's so great about that?  He didn't even tackle him," but, like I said, it's about intensity and it's just about hard-nosed football.

I understand the less contact, but even just limiting it to one time per player (which it normally is anyways) would be enough to keep it safe.  

I hate this.

It gets the team fired up........  just watch this video:

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(05-24-2019, 10:25 AM)Nately120 Wrote: Vince McMahon is known to be pretty lax about the long-term survival of his employees, so you may be onto something there.  I guess what it comes down to is if you're looking for the best players playing football with "garbage rules" or you'd rather watch Dontay Moch put Zach Mettenberger in the hospital.

Personally, I watch football because it is football.  If I found violence to be so essential to my viewing pleasure I'd watch UFC or get a job working at an inner city public school, or something.

(05-24-2019, 12:18 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Dontay Moch was so fast that you couldn't even tell he was on the field.