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Trump has not built a single mile of new border fence after 30 months in office - GMDino - 07-22-2019 This was a headline on the Drudge Report. Weird! https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-has-not-built-a-single-mile-of-new-border-fence-after-30-months-in-office Quote:SAN DIEGO, California — The Trump administration has not installed a single mile of new wall in a previously fenceless part of the U.S.-Mexico border in the 30 months since President Trump assumed office, despite his campaign promise to construct a “big beautiful wall.” RE: Trump has not built a single mile of new border fence after 30 months in office - GMDino - 07-25-2019 DJT better get busy on that wall. Wait... https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/25/politics/us-marines-arrested/index.html Quote:16 US Marines arrested for alleged crimes including human smuggling and drug-related offenses RE: Trump has not built a single mile of new border fence after 30 months in office - bfine32 - 07-26-2019 Good news Dino, maybe now he can get started: https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-supreme-court-lets-trump-223553207.html Quote:The U.S. Supreme Court on Friday handed President Donald Trump a victory by letting his administration redirect $2.5 billion in money approved by Congress for the Pentagon to help build his promised wall along the U.S.-Mexico border even though lawmakers refused to provide funding. RE: Trump has not built a single mile of new border fence after 30 months in office - BmorePat87 - 07-26-2019 SCOTUS has stayed the injunction preventing the Trump administration from reallocating $2.5b from the military to construct the wall. In a 5-4 decision, the court weighed whether or not a stay could be granted. In order for that to happen you need to show: Quote: (1) a reasonable probability that the Court will grant certiorari and (2) a fair prospect that the Court will reverse, but also (3) “‘a likelihood that irreparable harm will result from the denial of a stay.’” First 2 are easy, it was the last one up for debate. Sierra Club said the injunction is needed to prevent irreparable harm to the environment while the administration argued irreparable harm to the project if they are not able to secure contracts prior to Sept 30th, which they say would effectively kill the project prior to a court ruling on it. Down party lines, the 5 conservatives sided with the administration's argument while the 4 liberals went with the Sierra Club's argument. The majority suggests that in the time between now and a final ruling on the merits of the case, the administration will only have achieved funding, not started the project, hence no irreparable harm to the environment. The case will go to the appellate court this summer to further rule on the actual merits of the case, something the opinion notes is novel (though not the purview of the opinion so it stops there) if you're into reading opinions, it's a short one: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/18pdf/19a60_o75p.pdf RE: Trump has not built a single mile of new border fence after 30 months in office - SunsetBengal - 07-26-2019 (07-26-2019, 09:15 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: SCOTUS has stayed the injunction preventing the Trump administration from reallocating $2.5b from the military to construct the wall. Seems like it should be a slam dunk that National Security would override any Sierra Club concerns.. RE: Trump has not built a single mile of new border fence after 30 months in office - bfine32 - 07-26-2019 (07-26-2019, 09:39 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Seems like it should be a slam dunk that National Security would override any Sierra Club concerns.. Unless the appeals court is in Cali. RE: Trump has not built a single mile of new border fence after 30 months in office - BmorePat87 - 07-26-2019 (07-26-2019, 09:39 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Seems like it should be a slam dunk that National Security would override any Sierra Club concerns.. That wasn't taken into consideration and, if it were, the administration would probably find it harder to argue the national security benefit of a wall versus what they did argue: need to get contracts moving forward in this time and the standing of the Sierra Club to challenge the way the executive branch spends money allocated by the legislative branch (which Breyer goes on to say will be an interesting question to look at once the courts actually review the merits of the case). RE: Trump has not built a single mile of new border fence after 30 months in office - BmorePat87 - 07-26-2019 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/federal-judge-declines-block-trump-asylum-restrictions-southern-border-n1033756?fbclid=IwAR1LnBZ-jmtU0jQL8zuYCjTbWNdleSLahKMNPr2HDp_04jZYsCuLg9GQPk4 A federal judge has blocked the administration's recent restrictions on asylum seekers, which had attempted to deny any asylum seekers who traveled through other nations before the US and did not seek asylum there first. The judge noted that Congress has already addressed this and there's a law in place that would send Asylum seekers to other nations that can adequately provide them asylum, so the executive overreach only serves to harm our laws and systems that are in place via the elected representatives of the people. RE: Trump has not built a single mile of new border fence after 30 months in office - GMDino - 09-05-2019 Apparently DJT knows he better get SOMETHING built so he's
I would LOVE to take the time to discuss in a nice, rational manner but I'd rather just sit and wonder if the rubes who supported and believed him still do. Quote:The Pentagon said on Wednesday it would pull funding from 127 Defense Department projects, including schools and daycare centers for military families, as it diverts $3.6 billion to fund President Donald Trump’s wall along the U.S. border with Mexico. And look how much he loves the military! More than any. Many people say. RE: Trump has not built a single mile of new border fence after 30 months in office - BrownAssClown - 09-05-2019 Promises Made, Promises Kept. RE: Trump has not built a single mile of new border fence after 30 months in office - jj22 - 09-05-2019 I'm wondering if this will still go through given the backlash for the attack on our Military families as people see what funds he's taking from them. It's not a good look. RE: Trump has not built a single mile of new border fence after 30 months in office - Yojimbo - 09-05-2019 What’s hilarious in all this are the dumb Republican senators that were told the military funds wouldn’t come from their states’ projects if the voted for the “emergency” bill and now are losing tens of millions of dollars for their state’s economy. Good job morons. “Sen. Martha McSally, R-Ariz., who is facing a tough reelection bid in 2020, said a project involving a ground transport equipment building at Fort Huachuca will lose $30 million in project funds.” https://www.npr.org/2019/09/04/757463817/these-are-the-11-border-projects-getting-funds-intended-for-military-constructio RE: Trump has not built a single mile of new border fence after 30 months in office - Nately120 - 09-05-2019 (09-05-2019, 04:41 PM)jj22 Wrote: I'm wondering if this will still go through given the backlash for the attack on our Military families as people see what funds he's taking from them. It's not a good look. As long as Trump stands for the anthem he's supporting the military as much as any man can. Money isn't as important as respect. RE: Trump has not built a single mile of new border fence after 30 months in office - TheLeonardLeap - 09-05-2019 (09-05-2019, 07:01 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: What’s hilarious in all this are the dumb Republican senators that were told the military funds wouldn’t come from their states’ projects if the voted for the “emergency” bill and now are losing tens of millions of dollars for their state’s economy. Good job morons. Youri post actually makes me curious about something that I hadn't thought of until just now because you specifically brought up Arizona. Say they lose $30m in project funds in their state. $3.6b is being spent on the border wall. Eyeball estimate that Arizona is about 20% of the Mexico-US border. 20% of $3.6b is $720m being spent in their state. Add on the fact that they will need to hire labor, that labor needs to sleep somewhere, needs to eat somewhere, needs to buy groceries and the like somewhere, and it actually looks like it would become a major positive financially for Arizona even if they lose $30m in project funds, to the tune of well over 20x more money being spent in their state. So doesn't that mean the real losers are the ones with no US-Mexico border in their state? Seems like California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas will end up coming on top in the end. RE: Trump has not built a single mile of new border fence after 30 months in office - Yojimbo - 09-05-2019 (09-05-2019, 08:11 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Youri post actually makes me curious about something that I hadn't thought of until just now because you specifically brought up Arizona. Fair point. Additional consideration, which is more likely to get built/spent? The military money is bipartisan, unfortunately, but all the wall money won’t be spent if Trump doesn’t win re-election in 2020. Never mind, they’d probably just move the money back to the military project. RE: Trump has not built a single mile of new border fence after 30 months in office - BmorePat87 - 10-01-2019 In a new book, it is being revealed that in addition to calling for migrants legs to be shot at, Trump said the wall would be electrified, have flesh piercing spikes at the top, and have a moat with alligators or snakes ... https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/10/01/donald-trump-migrants-snakes-alligators-trench-nyt-sot-vpx-tsr.cnn RE: Trump has not built a single mile of new border fence after 30 months in office - Dill - 10-02-2019 (10-01-2019, 10:50 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: In a new book, it is being revealed that in addition to calling for migrants legs to be shot at, Trump said the wall would be electrified, have flesh piercing spikes at the top, and have a moat with alligators or snakes ... Beginning to sound like a neat video game. "The Wall"--kind of like grand theft auto, where players get points for killing individuals (20 pts), children (30 pts), a family of four (100 pts), or an entire "caravan" of 20+ (500 pts.). Some of them could be ISIS members or Al Qaeda (50 pts). Points off for killing a legal Mexican farmer (-10) on his side of the border or an American (-20). Killing a legal immigrant would be no points either way. Range of weapons--from knife to Rpg to call-in attack copter strikes. Land mines could be integrated into the 'scape as well. To win you have to reduce illegal immigration in your sector to O. RE: Trump has not built a single mile of new border fence after 30 months in office - Nately120 - 10-03-2019 (10-01-2019, 10:50 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: In a new book, it is being revealed that in addition to calling for migrants legs to be shot at, Trump said the wall would be electrified, have flesh piercing spikes at the top, and have a moat with alligators or snakes ... I assume he's mostly joking, but I can't tell. Trump has reached the level of John Lennon at his "I can do whatever I want and my fans will declare it genius" period. I wish Trump would give his next speech with Melania knitting while blindfolded so Trump's fans can tell us why that makes him the most bold genius there is, RE: Trump has not built a single mile of new border fence after 30 months in office - GMDino - 10-23-2019 Maybe THIS is why no one sees any walls being built along the border...he's building it in Colorado.
RE: Trump has not built a single mile of new border fence after 30 months in office - GMDino - 10-24-2019 Why are crying? He was just "kidding"? Now go make him a sandwich and he won't hit you again.
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