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Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - GMDino - 09-10-2019

Here is evidence that he does...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-accidentally-tweeted-an-insult-at-a-pastor-heres-how-the-pastor-responded/ar-AAH2ONq?ocid=spartandhp


Quote:Trump accidentally tweeted an insult at a pastor. Here’s how the pastor responded.


 
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The Rev. Jonathan Carl glanced at Twitter and laughed out loud in disbelief.

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The president of the United States had just tweeted at him, a Baptist pastor in Kentucky who up until now hadn’t had any reason to be the subject of national attention. And President Trump was, online, in public, out of the blue, insulting him.

The president had mixed up Jonathan Carl, the Kentucky minister with fewer than 375 Twitter followers, with Jonathan Karl, the ABC News reporter whose journalism had ruffled the feathers of the commander in chief.

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Carl’s laughter soon turned into concern. Trump had called Carl a “lightweight reporter.” And some of Trump’s ardent fans weren’t happy with Jonathan Carl — not realizing that he wasn’t Jonathan Karl.

The “drive-by tweet” brought on “intense vitriol and hatred,” Carl said. He was suddenly experiencing what many of Trump’s intended Twitter targets go through almost daily: a barrage of infuriated tweets from Trump’s followers.

The pastor stopped laughing. And on Monday, a week after his evening as a sudden Twitter target, he published [url=http://www.jonathancarl.org/2019/09/TrumpTwitterWar.html]an open letter
 to Trump.

“Although I was an accidental casualty caught in the cross-fire of your ‘lightweight’ tweet, your attack was very purposeful and hurtful. Many others, whether American citizens or global citizens, feel wounded and hurt by the shrapnel and side-effects of your ongoing Twitter attacks,” Carl wrote in his letter.

He hurled the same insult back at Trump that Trump had mistakenly leveled at him — but then turned it into a theological point. “Let’s be honest, you are a lightweight too,” Carl wrote. “We all are. God is the only heavyweight who knows it all and gets it right all the time.”

He pleaded with the president: “Please don’t make the Twitter-universe such a dark and depressing place. It shouldn’t be a place to argue, fight, or jockey for position. We can disagree and debate without childish name-calling. You can make Twitter a better place.”

Carl, who did not immediately respond to a request for comment from The Washington Post, is the lead pastor at South Fork Baptist Church in Hodgenville, Ky. According to an online biography, he is an Iraq War veteran, holds a PhD from Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and is raising three daughters with his wife.

His church is part of the Southern Baptist Convention — the nation’s largest Protestant denomination, and one of its most Republican-leaning. Sixty-four percent of Southern Baptists described themselves as “conservative” to Pew Research Center, and 9 percent described themselves as “liberal.” Last year, Vice President Pence showed up as a surprise guest at the denomination’s annual convention, where he thanked more than 9,000 attendees from churches “to the Southern Baptist Convention for the essential and irreplaceable role you play in America.”

But Carl didn’t mince words for the president. “Your heart must be in a dangerous place to have such a consistent flow of defamation and disrespect towards so many,” he said.

He interspersed his own comments throughout the letter with quotes from Abraham Lincoln, a president who never got to use Twitter but still came up with plenty of bon mots. Carl said that he passes Lincoln’s birthplace, which is now a National Park Service site, in his church’s town of Hodgenville, almost every day on his commute.

Perhaps Lincoln would not have been overly fond of Twitter, based on one 1861 quotation that Carl selected from the great emancipator: “I am rather inclined to silence, and whether that be wise or not, it is at least more unusual nowadays to find a man who can hold his tongue than to find one who cannot.”

btw, his letter to the President is worth a read. It's linked in the story.


RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - Nebuchadnezzar - 09-10-2019

Small minds talk about people
Average minds talk about events
Great minds talk about ideas

Trump is a small minded to average minded person and what's crazy is that he will most likely be re-elected to another four years because people are doing ok right now and voters don't realize Trump is a small minded person.

I will most likely be one of those voting for him too in 2020 unless I write in the Constitutionalist again because I don't like any of the Democrat candidates and the one who gets the nomination will be a far left loon like Sanders.


RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - GMDino - 09-11-2019

(09-10-2019, 10:32 PM)Nebuchadnezzar Wrote: Small minds talk about people
Average minds talk about events
Great minds talk about ideas

Trump is a small minded to average minded person and what's crazy is that he will most likely be re-elected to another four years because people are doing ok right now and voters don't realize Trump is a small minded person.

I will most likely be one of those voting for him too in 2020 unless I write in the Constitutionalist again because I don't like any of the Democrat candidates and the one who gets the nomination will be a far left loon like Sanders.

I guess we can't all put the country's long term well being over anything else. 


RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - Dill - 09-11-2019

(09-10-2019, 10:32 PM)Nebuchadnezzar Wrote: Small minds talk about people
Average minds talk about events
Great minds talk about ideas

Trump is a small minded to average minded person and what's crazy is that he will most likely be re-elected to another four years because people are doing ok right now and voters don't realize Trump is a small minded person.

I will most likely be one of those voting for him too in 2020 unless I write in the Constitutionalist again because I don't like any of the Democrat candidates and the one who gets the nomination will be a far left loon like Sanders.

Does Bernie talk about people, events, or ideas?


RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 09-11-2019

(09-11-2019, 09:44 AM)GMDino Wrote: I guess we can't all put the country's long term well being over anything else. 

I guess it's just not possible that he thinks that trump is better for our country's long term well being then some of the Dem candidates.


RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 09-11-2019

(09-11-2019, 01:15 PM)Dill Wrote: Does Bernie talk about people, events, or ideas?

He talks about bad ideas such as open borders, free medical care for all, having me pay for someone else's student loans and free college.


Welfare state plus open borders means national collapse.

To be fair, I like some of his ideas as well, but I think a Bernie presidency would be an unmitigated disaster.


RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - Dill - 09-11-2019

(09-11-2019, 06:05 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: He talks about bad ideas such as open borders, free medical care for all, having me pay for someone else's student loans and free college.


Welfare state plus open borders means national collapse.

To be fair, I like some of his ideas as well, but I think a Bernie presidency would be an unmitigated disaster.

Do you mind paying for public schools?


RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 09-11-2019

(09-11-2019, 06:59 PM)Dill Wrote: Do you mind paying for public schools?

No.  Although I don't have any kids I recognize the national value of paying for a K-12 education.  I don't think that should be extended to college.  You want low interest student loans, I'm fine with that.  You want to curb rising tuition, I'm fine with that.  You want me to pay for your college degree, hell to the no.


RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - bfine32 - 09-11-2019

(09-11-2019, 10:19 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: No.  Although I don't have any kids I recognize the national value of paying for a K-12 education.  I don't think that should be extended to college.  You want low interest student loans, I'm fine with that.  You want to curb rising tuition, I'm fine with that.  You want me to pay for your college degree, hell to the no.

Those freeloading 3rd graders could always get a job and pay their own way through school. Those newspapers aren't going to deliver themselves. 


RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - BakertheBeast - 09-12-2019

Taxpayers are already paying the salaries of millions of government employee's. Some important like military, others not so important like those government employee's who spend half the day posting on message boards. Whats a  another trillion to get educated kids.


RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - Dill - 09-12-2019

(09-11-2019, 10:19 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: No.  Although I don't have any kids I recognize the national value of paying for a K-12 education.  I don't think that should be extended to college.  You want low interest student loans, I'm fine with that.  You want to curb rising tuition, I'm fine with that.  You want me to pay for your college degree, hell to the no.

A reasonable and well qualified response (though I do wish you'd paid for my college!).


RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 09-12-2019

(09-12-2019, 06:33 AM)BakertheBeast Wrote: Taxpayers are already paying the salaries of millions of government employee's. Some important like military, others not so important like those government employee's who spend half the day posting on message boards. Whats a  another trillion to get educated kids.

Government employees pay taxes too, or did you not know that?  You have any examples of the type of person you're referring to?


RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - GMDino - 09-12-2019

The correct answer was "yes".   Mellow


RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - GMDino - 09-13-2019

(09-12-2019, 11:38 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Are you 100% sure? Couldn't the "correct" answer be: He inspires hate in those that don't like him? 

Looking at the responses in this very thread; that's the conclusion I'd come up with. 

You didn't read the first post.

That's adorable.   Smirk


RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - BakertheBeast - 09-13-2019

(09-12-2019, 10:13 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Government employees pay taxes too, or did you not know that?  You have any examples of the type of person you're referring to?

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RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 09-13-2019

(09-13-2019, 04:59 AM)BakertheBeast Wrote: [Image: 0f7npbv9t4r5m106g.jpg]

Well then, I'm sure you'll be able to provide proof of this.  A simple look at my posting history would suffice.  Until you do so I'll be ignoring your shareblue newbooty ass.   Smirk


RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - Mike M (the other one) - 09-13-2019

(09-11-2019, 10:31 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Those freeloading 3rd graders could always get a job and pay their own way through school. Those newspapers aren't going to deliver themselves. 

They can't, Illegals do it cheaper.


RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - Mike M (the other one) - 09-13-2019

As to the OP Question.

No,
People already hate or don't hate before Trump came along. All that's happening is people are trying to use his words to justify their hate with him or to him.

It was same with Obama, but he wasn't quite the polarizing figure that Trump is, but the Right didn't hate Obama back then as bad as the left hates Trump now.


RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - GMDino - 09-13-2019

(09-13-2019, 01:38 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: As to the OP Question.

No,
People already hate or don't hate before Trump came along. All that's happening is people are trying to use his words to justify their hate with him or to him.

It was same with Obama, but he wasn't quite the polarizing figure that Trump is, but the Right didn't hate Obama back then as bad as the left hates Trump now.

So, to the OP his followers didn't spew hate at one of his targets based on his naming them?


RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - SunsetBengal - 09-13-2019

(09-13-2019, 12:19 AM)GMDino Wrote: You didn't read the first post.

That's adorable.   Smirk

TL/DR, looked like another reprint of hundreds of similar articles that you've posted.   Wink