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RE: Dalton is broken - rfaulk34 - 10-05-2019
(10-05-2019, 07:19 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: Lol 2016 Dalton was tied for 4th most sacked QB. Tied with Luck. 2012 he was 3rd most sacked. Dalton has played behind a bad line the majority of his career now
No he hasn't. I already touched on their pass block efficiency from 2011-2016. If you choose to remain in denial and make excuses for an average QB, go ahead. I'm done arguing with people that are only concerned with finding excuses.
He's had good/great passpro lines, good support and good/great defense the majority of his career.
RE: Dalton is broken - fredtoast - 10-06-2019
(10-04-2019, 08:49 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: We had one of the best rosters in the league from 2013-2015.
No he didn't.
RE: Dalton is broken - John Shaft - 10-06-2019
Dalton fanboys. Notice when running similar plays Dalton muffles a good playcall that was wide open yet the rookie Murry runs a similar play , secures the rock and made a spirited athletic run to the goal line. This is not an anomaly. Line did their job. This is typical Dalton
RE: Dalton is broken - Brownshoe - 10-06-2019
(10-05-2019, 11:12 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: No he hasn't. I already touched on their pass block efficiency from 2011-2016. If you choose to remain in denial and make excuses for an average QB, go ahead. I'm done arguing with people that are only concerned with finding excuses.
He's had good/great passpro lines, good support and good/great defense the majority of his career.
That's why 12 and 16 he was one of the most sacked QB. Sounds like amazing pass protection to me
RE: Dalton is broken - rfaulk34 - 10-06-2019
(10-06-2019, 03:14 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: That's why 12 and 16 he was one of the most sacked QB. Sounds like amazing pass protection to me
But why does he suck so much? Why does he always do just enough to come up short?
RE: Dalton is broken - Brownshoe - 10-06-2019
(10-06-2019, 05:26 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: But why does he suck so much? Why does he always do just enough to come up short?
Put a good supporting cast around him and he won't. 2013 and 2015 were pretty much the only years he had a good supporting cast. 2011 was supposed to be a rebuild and the only receiver he had was a rookie Green. No run game either. Took the team to the playoffs. 2012 worse OL play, no additional help at WR, no run game. 2014 everyone got hurt 2016 everything started to go to shit. Lots of injuries and one of the worst play callers in the league.
Seems more like the team is coming up short, not Dalton. But keep acting like we had a championship caliber team surrounding him his whole career.
RE: Dalton is broken - rfaulk34 - 10-06-2019
(10-06-2019, 05:36 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: Put a good supporting cast around him and he won't. 2013 and 2015 were pretty much the only years he had a good supporting cast. 2011 was supposed to be a rebuild and the only receiver he had was a rookie Green. No run game either. Took the team to the playoffs. 2012 worse OL play, no additional help at WR, no run game. 2014 everyone got hurt 2016 everything started to go to shit. Lots of injuries and one of the worst play callers in the league.
Seems more like the team is coming up short, not Dalton. But keep acting like we had a championship caliber team surrounding him his whole career.
Put a good supporting cast around him and the best he can do is lose in the first round of the playoffs every time.
He sucks.
RE: Dalton is broken - bengalfan74 - 10-06-2019
(10-06-2019, 06:39 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Put a good supporting cast around him and the best he can do is lose in the first round of the playoffs every time.
He sucks.
No, no, no, you don't understand.
We can't judge Dalton this season because ....bad Oline.
We can't judge Dalton previous season because... bad defense.
We can't judge Dalton previous season because...bad play calling.
We can't judge Dalton previous season because....lack of weapons.
We can't judge Dalton previous season because...HC
I'm telling you if by 2024 we have the 88 Bengals Oline, the 85 Bears defense, Walter Payton, Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, Barry Sanders, Tony Gonzalez, Antonio Gates, Terrell Owens, and Marvin Harrison Dalton will be alright.
RE: Dalton is broken - Nicomo Cosca - 10-06-2019
(10-06-2019, 07:00 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: No, no, no, you don't understand.
We can't judge Dalton this season because ....bad Oline.
We can't judge Dalton previous season because... bad defense.
We can't judge Dalton previous season because...bad play calling.
We can't judge Dalton previous season because....lack of weapons.
We can't judge Dalton previous season because...HC
I'm telling you if by 2024 we have the 88 Bengals Oline, the 85 Bears defense, Walter Payton, Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, Barry Sanders, Tony Gonzalez, Antonio Gates, Terrell Owens, and Marvin Harrison Dalton will be alright.
So divisional round?
RE: Dalton is broken - bengalfan74 - 10-06-2019
(10-06-2019, 07:09 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: So divisional round?
No I meant just getting back to the playoffs, one and done again.
RE: Dalton is broken - rfaulk34 - 10-06-2019
(10-06-2019, 07:00 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: No, no, no, you don't understand.
We can't judge Dalton this season because ....bad Oline.
We can't judge Dalton previous season because... bad defense.
We can't judge Dalton previous season because...bad play calling.
We can't judge Dalton previous season because....lack of weapons.
We can't judge Dalton previous season because...HC
I'm telling you if by 2024 we have the 88 Bengals Oline, the 85 Bears defense, Walter Payton, Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, Barry Sanders, Tony Gonzalez, Antonio Gates, Terrell Owens, and Marvin Harrison Dalton will be alright.
Good enough to make it to the 2nd round of the playoffs?
I wouldn't be money on it.
RE: Dalton is broken - Brownshoe - 10-06-2019
(10-06-2019, 06:39 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Put a good supporting cast around him and the best he can do is lose in the first round of the playoffs every time.
He sucks.
Lol 2013 was the only year he had anything to work with. 2015 he was hurt.
So yeah, he can easily get past the 1st round if he had a team around him. Unless you want to act like anyone ever played well in those playoff games around him too. Even Green played bad in those games.
RE: Dalton is broken - Nicomo Cosca - 10-06-2019
I have never seen such delusional homers willing to die on such a mediocre hill in my life. It’s ***** ridiculous.
Mike Brown continues to operate the way he does because of people like you.
We need a better QB. Have for years. Period. Everyone outside of the homers have been saying it forever now. But yeah, the 4 people who still hopelessly defend him are just so much smarter than the rest of the world.
**** off.
RE: Dalton is broken - Destro - 10-06-2019
So once Dalton is not playing, and the Bengals still lose, will the people who blame him for everything just pick someone new, blame Dalton still, even after he is gone, or will they just never post again?
RE: Dalton is broken - Nicomo Cosca - 10-06-2019
(10-06-2019, 09:40 PM)Destro Wrote: So once Dalton is not playing, and the Bengals still lose, will the people who blame him for everything just pick someone new, blame Dalton still, even after he is gone, or will they just never post again?
Stfu
RE: Dalton is broken - Destro - 10-06-2019
(10-06-2019, 09:41 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Stfu
Nope. :andy:
RE: Dalton is broken - Nicomo Cosca - 10-06-2019
(10-06-2019, 09:43 PM)Destro Wrote: Nope. :andy:
I hope you and rest of his delusional fanboys follow him to whatever team he’s backup on next.
RE: Dalton is broken - Destro - 10-06-2019
(10-06-2019, 09:44 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I hope you and rest of his delusional fanboys follow him to whatever team he’s backup on next.
First, I do not think Dalton can get this tea anywhere. The delusion is where people blame a single player for all that is wrong. I felt the same for you guys saying we were too hard Ross. Guess that depends on your health care coverage.
RE: Dalton is broken - Nicomo Cosca - 10-06-2019
(10-06-2019, 09:47 PM)Destro Wrote: First, I do not think Dalton can get this tea anywhere. The delusion is where people blame a single player for all that is wrong. I felt the same for you guys saying we were too hard Ross. Guess that depends on your health care coverage.
See, that’s were you ***** Dalton lovers just make shit up. NOBODY thinks he’s the ONLY problem. Nobody. But he IS one of the problems. Period.
RE: Dalton is broken - Destro - 10-06-2019
(10-06-2019, 09:50 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: See, that’s were you ***** Dalton lovers just make shit up. NOBODY thinks he’s the ONLY problem. Nobody. But he IS one of the problems. Period.
Why so angry? Dalton touch your woman or something? Plenty of people do nothing but fault him on every play. Did you even see the game day threads? % drops, nothing. Dalton bad pass, post after post by the same people.