(10-08-2019, 01:16 PM)R3stangs Wrote: I love AJ but I can't see justifying paying him in the $20M a year range. His injuries are starting to mount and I don't see how you can afford to wrap up that much in a 30+ year old wide receiver whose recent history is unreliable.

Sorry but I don't see receiving being the issue. Our receiving core is plenty serviceable if we had an offensive line that could protect and a defense that can get off the field. Fix the glaring issues.

(10-08-2019, 01:57 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: This is great news!  For him and for the Bengals.  Bengals need to purge the vets and get new blood on the team.

(10-08-2019, 01:25 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: No it’s not. It’s garbage outside of AJ and Boyd.

(10-08-2019, 03:17 PM)R3stangs Wrote: We'll agree to disagree.

Tate has had some drops but I think he can come around. Willis and Morgan seem to be doing fairly well. Lack of separation has been a problem on this team for years and frankly neither AJ nor Boyd seem to get much separation either. Possibly mostly a scheme issue. 

We've shown even this year without AJ that give Dalton time and he can find receivers. 

But he whole receiver issue aside putting AJ back in the lineup is not going to fix this team. The problems are a lot deeper than the receivers was my real point. Paying AJ that type of money is going to be diminishing returns and you still have a garbage team. Just think the money is better spent elsewhere.

(10-08-2019, 03:17 PM)R3stangs Wrote: We'll agree to disagree.

Tate has had some drops but I think he can come around. Willis and Morgan seem to be doing fairly well. Lack of separation has been a problem on this team for years and frankly neither AJ nor Boyd seem to get much separation either. Possibly mostly a scheme issue. 

We've shown even this year without AJ that give Dalton time and he can find receivers. 

But he whole receiver issue aside putting AJ back in the lineup is not going to fix this team. The problems are a lot deeper than the receivers was my real point. Paying AJ that type of money is going to be diminishing returns and you still have a garbage team. Just think the money is better spent elsewhere.

(10-08-2019, 01:47 PM)jason Wrote: This...

And even Boyd is more than a notch or two below AJ Green.

(10-08-2019, 01:49 PM)Whatever Wrote: Our WR's suck outside of the top 3, and two of those are hurt right now.  Guys can't get seperation, and if they do, they drop it half the time.  We have a serious lack of talent there.  However, paying an oft injured 30+ year old WR monster money isn't the answer, either.  If you get a reasonable trade offer, you have to take it.

(10-08-2019, 05:02 PM)fullonbehavior Wrote: No one on this team gets separation. Hard to get separation in 2 seconds. All comes down to the O line


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(10-08-2019, 03:23 PM)ochocincos Wrote: What's your definition of doing fairly well?
Willis only has 82 yards through 5 games.
Morgan only has 6 yards in the 1 game he's played.
Both of their PFF ratings to date are below 60.

(10-08-2019, 03:24 PM)jj22 Wrote: Remember all these "vets" are over 30 and highest comp pick you can get from them is a 5th round pick, so if AJ does leave, we won't get nearly anything worthy. I mean we can (and have) blown 1st round picks, but better try to steal a talent in the 1st round then the 5th.

Hopefully Bengals FO learned the lesson from Whit.

(10-08-2019, 05:20 PM)R3stangs Wrote: Omg. OK. They all suck and should be shot. My point continues to be that if keeping AJ here requires a $20M price tag then we have bigger needs and should spend the money somewhere else and either use what we have or find cheaper recievers in FA if need be.

(10-08-2019, 10:18 AM)CardCounterChris Wrote: I've loved watching AJ in stripes.  Its time to let him move on.  Its best for both parties.  The biggest issue Cincy has faced in recent years is not reloading after the 2015 season.  We lost a lot to free agency and the draft picks haven't been panning out.  The organization keeps saying, this is the same team we had in 15, look...we have Andy and AJ and Geno and Dre....but when you lose that much talent and don't bring people in, you're set up for failure.  The CP Ocho era came to an end and brought in the Andy AJ era, its gotta close for the next round of players to try to get the job done.

(10-08-2019, 05:40 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I agree that AJ's money could be better invested elsewhere (even on a new WR or two). Personally, if I'm going to spend $15+ mill a year on a WR, I don't want it spent on a 32 year old WR. But they do need better WR depth than Willis and Morgan if they haven't showed marked improvement by year's end.

(10-08-2019, 08:21 PM)jason Wrote: Does it really hurt that much to pony up for AJ Green if they are gonna be going full rebuild? A QB, LT, and hopefully another lineman on a rookie deal should open things up; no? I'm not terribly concerned with re-signing some of these guys coming up. Joe Mixon can kick rocks as far as I'm concerned.

(10-08-2019, 09:45 PM)Weazzel80 Wrote: You guys are crazy for wanting to trade AJ.

That guy has been always been money when he's on the field. He's the reason people think Andy is a good QB and he's the reason we went to the playoffs 5 years in a row.

Look where we are without him.

That guy draws extra coverage every game and often beats it. His presence opens up the field for our offense.

Pay the man what he deserves and get him a top QB with our likely top-5 pick. Even if we can't work out an extention he'd be worth the franchise tag.