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Parents of U.K. teen killed in crash say they felt ambushed during Trump meeting - GMDino - 10-16-2019 I'm sure we don't need another reminder that Trump is a moron but here it is anyway. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/anne-sacoolas-harry-dunn-parents-declined-white-house-meeting-with-american-involved-in-sons-crash/ Quote:Last Updated Oct 16, 2019 10:43 AM EDT RE: Parents of U.K. teen killed in crash say they felt ambushed during Trump meeting - BmorePat87 - 10-16-2019 I never heard about this story. I hope he does the right thing. RE: Parents of U.K. teen killed in crash say they felt ambushed during Trump meeting - GMDino - 10-16-2019 (10-16-2019, 01:59 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: I never heard about this story. I hope he does the right thing. Has he ever? RE: Parents of U.K. teen killed in crash say they felt ambushed during Trump meeting - Dill - 10-16-2019 Jeezus, Great photo op for Trump, and these grieving parents blew it. They don't deserve another chance. RE: Parents of U.K. teen killed in crash say they felt ambushed during Trump meeting - bfine32 - 10-16-2019 When was this meeting where they were ambushed? It is my understanding that a meeting was proposed, they family was told who would be there, and they declined. Of course no one can blame them for declining and I hope they receive justice for their son. RE: Parents of U.K. teen killed in crash say they felt ambushed during Trump meeting - fredtoast - 10-16-2019 (10-16-2019, 06:42 PM)bfine32 Wrote: When was this meeting where they were ambushed? Tuesday. RE: Parents of U.K. teen killed in crash say they felt ambushed during Trump meeting - GMDino - 10-16-2019 (10-16-2019, 06:42 PM)bfine32 Wrote: When was this meeting where they were ambushed? It is my understanding that a meeting was proposed, they family was told who would be there, and they declined. (10-16-2019, 06:58 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Tuesday. And DJT said it was a beautiful meeting...in a way. He is such a moron. RE: Parents of U.K. teen killed in crash say they felt ambushed during Trump meeting - BmorePat87 - 10-16-2019 (10-16-2019, 06:42 PM)bfine32 Wrote: When was this meeting where they were ambushed? It is my understanding that a meeting was proposed, they family was told who would be there, and they declined. I think the "ambush" part was first meeting with Trump (NPR said they were told it would be with a senior official) and then being told that the person who killed their son was in the next room and they could bring her into the room. I guess the family was not ready to see her on a whim, especially not with staff photographers in the room. RE: Parents of U.K. teen killed in crash say they felt ambushed during Trump meeting - Arturo Bandini - 10-17-2019 Shameless people. RE: Parents of U.K. teen killed in crash say they felt ambushed during Trump meeting - BakertheBeast - 10-17-2019 Does anyone here seriously think that Trump gives two shits about that kid or his parents? RE: Parents of U.K. teen killed in crash say they felt ambushed during Trump meeting - michaelsean - 10-17-2019 An ambush would be if they brought her in the room without asking, but she should be sent back. If it were a simple mistake (I don't know one way or the other) of driving on the wrong side because we drive on opposite sides of the road, I can't imagine she's going to have the book thrown at her. RE: Parents of U.K. teen killed in crash say they felt ambushed during Trump meeting - GMDino - 10-17-2019 Personally I think if I was going to meet with a high level official to discuss the case of my son's death and out of the blue they said they had his killer in the next room and asked if I wanted to meet them I'd consider it inappropriate at least and an ambush at worst based on how the person I was meeting with presented it to me. But it was the parents in the room who used the word "ambush" so I'm gonna go with their reaction this time. RE: Parents of U.K. teen killed in crash say they felt ambushed during Trump meeting - CJD - 10-17-2019 I think this is a scenario where Trump was trying to be helpful. He just doesn't seem to understand human interactions and what is and is not appropriate. But I give him points for at least trying to do the right thing - getting these two parties to meet, even if he did it in one of the most absurd and inappropriate ways you could think of. RE: Parents of U.K. teen killed in crash say they felt ambushed during Trump meeting - michaelsean - 10-17-2019 If I'm the lady I'd just want to get it over with. Face the consequences, which I really doubt will be overly harsh, or spend your life as the woman that ran away from it. RE: Parents of U.K. teen killed in crash say they felt ambushed during Trump meeting - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 10-17-2019 I read BBC news everyday so I've been aware of this story for a long time. I'm actually shocked it just came up, Vox must have finally become aware of it. The thing about this case is that it has implications far beyond this one incident. If we surrender diplomatic immunity on this case then it opens the door for other cases. If you have issue with this particular instance then your issue is really with the concept of diplomatic immunity in general. Not remotely on the same level I know, but here in Los Angeles we have numerous embassies and there are some that are infamous for routinely breaking traffic and parking laws and then flaunting their immunity. I feel horrible for the kid's parents and it's very apparent that this was a horrible accident, but I don't think any POTUS would be returning this woman to UK soil. RE: Parents of U.K. teen killed in crash say they felt ambushed during Trump meeting - GMDino - 10-17-2019 Legal ramifications aside this was a ham handed/boneheaded move by DJT. Naturally his minions are out here saying how "wonderful" he was.
RE: Parents of U.K. teen killed in crash say they felt ambushed during Trump meeting - Au165 - 10-17-2019 (10-17-2019, 10:11 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I read BBC news everyday so I've been aware of this story for a long time. I'm actually shocked it just came up, Vox must have finally become aware of it. The thing about this case is that it has implications far beyond this one incident. If we surrender diplomatic immunity on this case then it opens the door for other cases. If you have issue with this particular instance then your issue is really with the concept of diplomatic immunity in general. Not remotely on the same level I know, but here in Los Angeles we have numerous embassies and there are some that are infamous for routinely breaking traffic and parking laws and then flaunting their immunity. I feel horrible for the kid's parents and it's very apparent that this was a horrible accident, but I don't think any POTUS would be returning this woman to UK soil.Actually, now that they have returned to the states the question becomes residual immunity. The reality is though residual immunity most likely won't help her because it only protects diplomats from official acts and she most likely wasn't performing any official acts. I think what will happen is the UK will basically put out an extradition request and Trump will tell them not to grant it. When that happens she will basically be locked into the country because if she travels anywhere else she will be arrested and extradited. In the mean time the UK will then refuse to extradite people we need as a tit for tat over this obviously guilty and no longer immune person. RE: Parents of U.K. teen killed in crash say they felt ambushed during Trump meeting - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 10-17-2019 (10-17-2019, 12:43 PM)Au165 Wrote: Actually, now that they have returned to the states the question becomes residual immunity. The reality is though residual immunity most likely won't help her because it only protects diplomats from official acts and she most likely wasn't performing any official acts. I think what will happen is the UK will basically put out an extradition request and Trump will tell them not to grant it. When that happens she will basically be locked into the country because if she travels anywhere else she will be arrested and extradited. In the mean time the UK will then refuse to extradite people we need as a tit for tat over this obviously guilty and no longer immune person. I think you'll find the UK has already done so, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_McKinnon, in the past. We should feel no obligation in this regard based on the McKinnon case alone. Honestly, this family and the UK are being a bit disingenuous. While I utterly sympathize with their situation they don't want her to return to the UK so they can have a therapeutic meeting with her, they want her criminally charged. That being the case there isn't a single POTUS in recent history who would return her to the UK. RE: Parents of U.K. teen killed in crash say they felt ambushed during Trump meeting - fredtoast - 10-17-2019 (10-17-2019, 10:00 AM)Crazyjdog Wrote: But I give him points for at least trying to do the right thing - getting these two parties to meet, even if he did it in one of the most absurd and inappropriate ways you could think of. How is it "the right thing" to have these people to meet? I see it as a form of torture for the parents to tell them "The person who killed your son and will never be punished for it is here. Would you like to see her walking around freely defying justice?" RE: Parents of U.K. teen killed in crash say they felt ambushed during Trump meeting - Au165 - 10-17-2019 (10-17-2019, 01:47 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Honestly, this family and the UK are being a bit disingenuous. While I utterly sympathize with their situation they don't want her to return to the UK so they can have a therapeutic meeting with her, they want her criminally charged. That being the case there isn't a single POTUS in recent history who would return her to the UK. You don't think having criminal charges properly filed is therapeutic? |