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RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - Nicomo Cosca - 04-27-2020 (04-27-2020, 11:13 AM)BacknDaDey Wrote: I don't get why some people think Dalton will be thrilled and enthused to set behind Burrow to back him up or so called "mentor" him. You all are going to be mad if Dalton outplays Burrow and ends up starting! The same Andy Dalton that threw 14 INT’s in 13 games last season? He’s going to beat out Joe Burrow? Right... RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - Luvnit2 - 04-27-2020 (04-27-2020, 12:24 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: The same Andy Dalton that threw 14 INT’s in 13 games last season? He’s going to beat out Joe Burrow? Right... He may not, but why not let him try since no financial risk other than fear he does in fact beat him out. If he beat him out it would not say something wrong with Burrow, it will say AD is a vet QB with a winning record for a lousy franchise who is an expert on Zac's playbook. Again, no risk in letting the two compete versus cutting AD and get nothing in return. That can still be done prior to week#1. RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - Nicomo Cosca - 04-27-2020 (04-27-2020, 01:47 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: He may not, but why not let him try since no financial risk other than fear he does in fact beat him out. If he beat him out it would not say something wrong with Burrow, it will say AD is a vet QB with a winning record for a lousy franchise who is an expert on Zac's playbook. The risk is wasting snaps in an already shortened and unprecedented type offseason. McC already pointed this out. Burrow needs to get in all the work he can. In fact, the team apparently already told Joe to start picking out some of his favorite plays from last season at LSU. They’re doing the smart thing, and that’s getting right to work and hitting the ground running. It has nothing to do with some silly “fear” about Dalton winning out. Literally no one thinks that’s a possibility other than you. RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - Synric - 04-27-2020 Pual Daugherty article about keeping Dalton Quote:The Bengals suggesting publicly that they could keep Andy Dalton is simply BS (Basic Smokescreen), a means of persuading any team interested in cherry-picking Dalton that it will have to give up something, anything to get him. Of course, no team believes that, so Dalton is still a Bengal. https://amp.cincinnati.com/amp/3030235001 RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - WiregrassBenGal - 04-27-2020 It's best for the Bengals and Andy to part ways, and I always liked Andy. Hopefully, he can get into a situation like the one Ryan Tannehill had with the Titans last year because he's class, he deserves it, and he can still play. Just not for the Bengals. RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - Nately120 - 04-27-2020 (04-26-2020, 09:38 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: That our head coach isn’t Andy Reid after one season? You thought that needed explaining? I'm not sure our HC will be Andy Reid after 20 seasons any more than Dalton will turn into Tom Brady as soon as we let him go. RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - Hammerstripes - 04-27-2020 At this point I'm more than happy hanging on to him and seeing if a team has an injury at the QB position during camp. Even if he gets traded now, he's not going to be a starter anywhere and he probably isn't the ideal backup for too many teams. RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - Shake n Blake - 04-27-2020 Unfortunately, Mike held out for a trade that wasn't coming, and now that $18 mil is less valuable (from a roster standpoint) than it was in March. We could still use it towards a Mixon extension and/or June cuts though, and that's what we should (and probably will) do. Right now, I believe there's a game of chicken going on between Mike Brown, the Jags and probably the Pats. Those teams likely don't want to part with a pick nor do they want to pay Andy $18 million, so they're waiting it out. That said, Mike has incredible It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out, but I wish Mike would just do the right thing and stop overvaluing Dalton (like he did with McCarron). It's obvious that Dalton is likely out, so we need to get a veteran in there immediately and start focusing on Mixon's extension and moving forward with Burrow. RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - fredtoast - 04-27-2020 (04-27-2020, 05:19 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I wish Mike would just do the right thing and stop overvaluing Dalton (like he did with McCarron). Mike played that perfectly. The Browns just screwed it up. In fact the deal he got for McCarron is another reason why he has confidence to hold onto Dalton waiting for a trade. RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - Shake n Blake - 04-27-2020 (04-27-2020, 05:43 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Mike played that perfectly. The Browns just screwed it up. We got nothing for McCarron, and if Hue Jackson didn't exist, Mike would've been 0 for 2 with Palmer and McCarron. The fact that no one else stepped up besides Hue shows that Mike overvalued McCarron. RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-27-2020 (04-27-2020, 05:19 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Unfortunately, Mike held out for a trade that wasn't coming, and now that $18 mil is less valuable (from a roster standpoint) than it was in March. We could still use it towards a Mixon extension and/or June cuts though, and that's what we should (and probably will) do. Well, they've got a little over 7 mil of cap space right now without any of the rookies signed. I seem to remember 11 mil is about what it costs for rookies. How is it possible to wait until TC to do anything about Dalton? Holding onto Dalton at this point seems like the opposite of doing right by him to me. RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - bfine32 - 04-27-2020 (04-27-2020, 02:18 PM)Synric Wrote: Pual Daugherty article about keeping Dalton You know I like you Synric, but there has been no one more full of shit during this entire process than Paul Daugherty. If he were to have any credibility in his reporting Andy would be home shopping in NE and we'd have an extra 2nd rounder. Dude, just throws shit against the wall hoping something might stick. As to can't afford him: The Saints have Drew Brees at a $45 Mil cap this year and just signed Hill to $10 Mil per year and who knows what they are giving Winston. I think we can find a way to keep Andy and his $17 Mil and a kid on a rookie deal. RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - Synric - 04-27-2020 (04-27-2020, 06:28 PM)bfine32 Wrote: You know I like you Synric, but there has been no one more full of shit during this entire process than Paul Daugherty. If he were to have any credibility in his reporting Andy would be home shopping in NE and we'd have an extra 2nd rounder. Dude, just throws shit against the wall hoping something might stick. It's just a recent article on the subject lol. I do know one thing. Andy Dalton might be the nicest guy in the world but stepping into a backseat role could be tough after running the show for nearly a decade. RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - McC - 04-27-2020 (04-27-2020, 06:48 PM)Synric Wrote: It's just a recent article on the subject lol. One thing I don't understand is why people are expecting Andy to be a damn saint and willingly accept being the demoted top dog and to add insult to injury, tutor the guy who took his job. Imagine you're the president of a company and the CEO comes to you and tells you you're being demoted to vice president and they want you to stay on and tutor the guy they gave your job to. That wouldn't be awkward at all, would it? RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - Nicomo Cosca - 04-27-2020 (04-27-2020, 06:55 PM)McC Wrote: One thing I don't understand is why people are expecting Andy to be a damn saint and willingly accept being the demoted top dog and to add insult to injury, tutor the guy who took his job. People seem to forget how pissed Andy was about getting benched last year. He openly stated that the team should have given him a chance to go elsewhere at the trade deadline. Then he came out with the “not real fans” bs when people were worried about winning meaningless games and not getting Burrow (which is exactly what happened to Miami). Keeping him around is just a terrible idea on so many levels. RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - fredtoast - 04-27-2020 (04-27-2020, 06:55 PM)McC Wrote: One thing I don't understand is why people are expecting Andy to be a damn saint and willingly accept being the demoted top dog and to add insult to injury, tutor the guy who took his job. Andy will accept it because it is his only choice. He is under contract. It is not like the situation in your hypothetical were I could just say "Screw you I am going to work for another company." RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - fredtoast - 04-27-2020 (04-27-2020, 07:10 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: People seem to forget how pissed Andy was about getting benched last year. He openly stated that the team should have given him a chance to go elsewhere at the trade deadline. Then he came out with the “not real fans” bs when people were worried about winning meaningless games and not getting Burrow (which is exactly what happened to Miami). Keeping him around is just a terrible idea on so many levels. He was not happy, but he didn't refuse to play or split the poison the locker room. When he was reinstated as starter he led the team to two victories and an amazing 23 point fourth quarter comeback on the road against Miami. RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - Nicomo Cosca - 04-27-2020 (04-27-2020, 07:46 PM)fredtoast Wrote: He was not happy, but he didn't refuse to play or split the poison the locker room. Well yeah...he got his job back. How would his attitude had been if Finley remained the starter the rest of the season? RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - jason - 04-27-2020 (04-27-2020, 07:38 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Andy will accept it because it is his only choice. He is under contract. Not really. He has the choice to show up completely disengaged. He could do just enough as to not get fined for conduct detrimental... All the while being paid more than most every guy that is on the field. He could even get crazy, and take a page outta the Cordy Glenn playbook. RE: Why not keep Andy as a backup? - BacknDaDey - 04-27-2020 (04-27-2020, 07:38 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Andy will accept it because it is his only choice. He is under contract. Dalton can refuse to re-do the contract and force the Bengals to release him. That's would be a screw you to me. I can't see the Bengals having a 17mil backup. |