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RE: Mixon placed on IR - fredtoast - 11-21-2020
(11-21-2020, 05:09 PM)Hoofhearted Wrote: Exhibit A for why you never pay RBs.
WTF?
Players at every position get injured.
I guess we should never pay a CB because Waynes got injured, right?
RE: Mixon placed on IR - WhodeyRay - 11-21-2020
This is not Mixons fault getting injured but my lord do we have a lot of pay going out to a few guys this year that we are getting very little production out of. I really like Mixon but for the most part the line makes a rb. Don't pay big for one.
RE: Mixon placed on IR - ezekiel23 - 11-21-2020
Another player overpaid and gets injured to often.In my opinion,Mixon isn’t a very durable RB.Before I I sign a player to that kind of money I’m going to look at every aspect of his play.Bobby Hart another example.
RE: Mixon placed on IR - Tony - 11-21-2020
(11-21-2020, 05:13 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Some are worth it, I think Joe is.
Ya he really balled out this year. NOT! These guys are such fragile bitches... Should've never signed him..
RE: Mixon placed on IR - Tony - 11-21-2020
This guy will be traded next year. Reminds me of the Gurley mistake in LA.. You think Zack would have known better..
RE: Mixon placed on IR - ochocincos - 11-21-2020
(11-21-2020, 07:54 PM)WhodeyRay Wrote: This is not Mixons fault getting injured but my lord do we have a lot of pay going out to a few guys this year that we are getting very little production out of. I really like Mixon but for the most part the line makes a rb. Don't pay big for one.
Players injured (cap hit):
Mixon ($4.3 mill)
Reader ($10 mill)
Waynes ($10 mill)
Uzomah ($5.9 mill)
Ross ($5.5 mill)
XSF ($2.25 mill)
--------------------------
$38 mill
Players active but not producing well at all:
Green ($18.1 mill)
Atkins ($14.2 mill)
------------------------
$32.3 mill
Players making decent money but relegated to backup:
Price ($3.2 mill)
Shawn Williams ($4.9 mill)
--------------------
$8.1 mill
Total "wasted" cap space = $78.4 mill (37.6% of total cap space for 2020)
RE: Mixon placed on IR - Nicomo Cosca - 11-21-2020
(11-21-2020, 09:52 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Players injured (cap hit):
Mixon ($4.3 mill)
Reader ($10 mill)
Waynes ($10 mill)
Uzomah ($5.9 mill)
Ross ($5.5 mill)
XSF ($2.25 mill)
--------------------------
$38 mill
Players active but not producing well at all:
Green ($18.1 mill)
Atkins ($14.2 mill)
------------------------
$32.3 mill
Players making decent money but relegated to backup:
Price ($3.2 mill)
Shawn Williams ($4.9 mill)
--------------------
$8.1 mill
Total "wasted" cap space = $78.4 mill (37.6% of total cap space for 2020)
I’d add Sample to the not producing group. You could get similar production from an UDFA making league minimum.
RE: Mixon placed on IR - ochocincos - 11-21-2020
(11-21-2020, 09:37 PM)Tony Wrote: This guy will be traded next year. Reminds me of the Gurley mistake in LA.. You think Zack would have known better..
Joe Mixon was on pace for 1141 rushing yards and 368 receiving yards.
In total, that was on pace for 1509 yards from scrimmage.
That would have actually been his best season to date.
While I'm also in the camp of don't pay RBs unless you have a run-oriented offense (which we don't), he has been a key contributor every season.
I do think that if his money had gone toward the OL instead of him, we'd have a better offense overall.
But I also said the same thing about AJ lol.
RE: Mixon placed on IR - ochocincos - 11-21-2020
(11-21-2020, 09:56 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I’d add Sample to the not producing group. You could get similar production from an UDFA making league minimum.
I mean yea, but he only has a cap hit of $1.25 mill this season. The league minimum isn't really far off from that.
RE: Mixon placed on IR - Nately120 - 11-21-2020
Joe Mixon? More like Woe Mix..hurt, amirite?
RE: Mixon placed on IR - jfkbengals - 11-21-2020
(11-21-2020, 10:05 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Joe Mixon? More like Woe Mix..hurt, amirite?
What's in your glass? 'Cause I think I want one of those next!
RE: Mixon placed on IR - jfkbengals - 11-21-2020
(11-21-2020, 07:21 PM)RunKijanaRun Wrote: Meh. I’m a Mixon guy but I’m starting to regret this deal. I never liked paying RBs either but I thought the deal was reasonable enough.
It's absolutely reasonable, especially given two more seasons of rookie salary for the other Joe.
RE: Mixon placed on IR - Nicomo Cosca - 11-21-2020
(11-21-2020, 10:01 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I mean yea, but he only has a cap hit of $1.25 mill this season. The league minimum isn't really far off from that.
League minimum is only 585k isn’t it?
RE: Mixon placed on IR - jfkbengals - 11-21-2020
(11-21-2020, 10:13 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: League minimum is only 585k isn’t it?
Depends on years of service.
Quote:
- 0 (Zero) Credited Seasons: $610,000
- 1 Credited Season: $675,000
- 2 Credited Seasons: $750,000
- 3 Credited Seasons: $825,000
- 4 to 6 Credited Seasons: $910,000
- 7+ Credited Seasons: $1,050,000
https://www.ewusiaklaw.com/blog/2020/9/8/2020-league-minimum-nfl-player-salary
RE: Mixon placed on IR - Nicomo Cosca - 11-21-2020
(11-21-2020, 10:18 PM)jfkbengals Wrote: Depends on years of service.
https://www.ewusiaklaw.com/blog/2020/9/8/2020-league-minimum-nfl-player-salary
Like I said, I was going off the assumption we could get similar production from an UDFA. It’s not really a significant amount of money or anything in the grand scheme of things (neither is XSF though), but it’s another position we’re not getting much from.
RE: Mixon placed on IR - GreenCornBengal - 11-21-2020
I’m sure Mixon is relieved he signed early. I remember there was thought he might try to play this year out before signing to prove his worth. He made the logical choice and it paid off.
RE: Mixon placed on IR - Tony - 11-21-2020
(11-21-2020, 09:58 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Joe Mixon was on pace for 1141 rushing yards and 368 receiving yards.
In total, that was on pace for 1509 yards from scrimmage.
That would have actually been his best season to date.
While I'm also in the camp of don't pay RBs unless you have a run-oriented offense (which we don't), he has been a key contributor every season.
I do think that if his money had gone toward the OL instead of him, we'd have a better offense overall.
But I also said the same thing about AJ lol.
I would bet anything he wasn't going to hit any of those projections... You could get his stats out of any RB. I think it was a waste of $ to sign him. He's overrated as hell and there hasn't been much drop off without him .
RE: Mixon placed on IR - Nicomo Cosca - 11-21-2020
(11-21-2020, 10:45 PM)Tony Wrote: I would bet anything he wasn't going to hit any of those projections... You could get his stats out of any RB. I think it was a waste of $ to sign him. He's overrated as hell and there hasn't been much drop off without him .
No you couldn’t.
RE: Mixon placed on IR - jfkbengals - 11-21-2020
(11-21-2020, 10:46 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: No you couldn’t.
This ^^^
RE: Mixon placed on IR - TheLeonardLeap - 11-21-2020
(11-21-2020, 09:52 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Players injured (cap hit):
Mixon ($4.3 mill)
Reader ($10 mill)
Waynes ($10 mill)
Uzomah ($5.9 mill)
Ross ($5.5 mill)
XSF ($2.25 mill)
--------------------------
$38 mill
Players active but not producing well at all:
Green ($18.1 mill)
Atkins ($14.2 mill)
------------------------
$32.3 mill
Players making decent money but relegated to backup:
Price ($3.2 mill)
Shawn Williams ($4.9 mill)
--------------------
$8.1 mill
Total "wasted" cap space = $78.4 mill (37.6% of total cap space for 2020)
Bad take that you don't have him in the upper category.
I don't think he's had a full practice all season and he missed the first 4 games outright as his shoulder is clearly not okay.
I mean, come on... you have Ross in the injured category and he wasn't even hurt when he got deactivated for games.