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Why is the Muslim religion a "religion of peace"? - PhilHos - 10-20-2015 I'm not saying it's not, but I want to hear from as many of you as possible as to why YOU think its a religion of peace. Yes, there are violent extremists and we should NEVER judge an entire group by its most radical members, but what about the Muslim religion itself makes it a religion of peace? Please note: I have no ulterior motive; I'm not trying to passive-aggressively state that it is NOT a religion of peace. I just want to hear your thoughts and hopefully provide some discussion. Because of this, St. Lucie (and those that agree with him) I ask that you don't come here stating why it is NOT. Thanks. RE: Why is the Muslim religion a "religion of peace"? - Benton - 10-20-2015 Possibly a good discussion, but (and I hope I'm not starting it off on the wrong foot) wasn't that just a term coined by President Bush? Personally, I think there's a potential for peace in all religions. That's usually the selling point. Muslims have that same potential in the same way Christians do — their ultimate goal is to be at peace through submission to a higher power. We're both just really, really bad on understanding what that power is telling us to do. RE: Why is the Muslim religion a "religion of peace"? - Belsnickel - 10-20-2015 (10-20-2015, 12:08 PM)Benton Wrote: Possibly a good discussion, but (and I hope I'm not starting it off on the wrong foot) wasn't that just a term coined by President Bush? You know, I never knew that was where the term came from. I was going to go on about internal peace through submission to God, and all that. But I didn't realize it was a term coined int he west to try to differentiate between mainstream Muslims and the extremists. RE: Why is the Muslim religion a "religion of peace"? - RICHMONDBENGAL_07 - 10-20-2015 (10-20-2015, 11:48 AM)PhilHos Wrote: I'm not saying it's not, but I want to hear from as many of you as possible as to why YOU think its a religion of peace. Yeah I'm not a 100% on the tenants of the faith, but I do know that they are part of the Abrahamic faiths (Judaism and Christianity being the other two). All three have a history of a lot of violence though. None of them could claim to be a "religion of peace". RE: Why is the Muslim religion a "religion of peace"? - Au165 - 10-20-2015 Religion itself is peaceful in most cases, the issue is humans get carried away and try to impose it on others through any means necessary (often violence). RE: Why is the Muslim religion a "religion of peace"? - Belsnickel - 10-20-2015 (10-20-2015, 12:18 PM)RICHMONDBENGAL_07 Wrote: Yeah I'm not a 100% on the tenants of the faith, but I do know that they are part of the Abrahamic faiths (Judaism and Christianity being the other two). All three have a history of a lot of violence though. None of them could claim to be a "religion of peace". Depends on the branches/sect/denominations. I don't think anyone could deny the Amish as having a religion of peace. RE: Why is the Muslim religion a "religion of peace"? - RICHMONDBENGAL_07 - 10-20-2015 (10-20-2015, 12:50 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Depends on the branches/sect/denominations. I don't think anyone could deny the Amish as having a religion of peace.I absolutely understand this. However in the broad picture of things, all three undeniably have a history of violence. period. RE: Why is the Muslim religion a "religion of peace"? - GodHatesBengals - 10-20-2015 LOL @ any Abrahamic religion being a "religion of peace". Yahweh was a war god from the very beginning. There are peaceful Muslims. But their religion is not peaceful. RE: Why is the Muslim religion a "religion of peace"? - Benton - 10-20-2015 (10-20-2015, 12:50 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Depends on the branches/sect/denominations. I don't think anyone could deny the Amish as having a religion of peace. ![]() Woke up quick, at about dawn Just thought that I had to be in Lancaster soon I gotta get at peace, before the day begins Before my mother starts prayin' about my friends About to go and near went blind Young Amish on the path peacefully lookin' for signs I went in the house, to get my hat, with the pitchfork, strung on my back I bailed outside and I hefted my farm implement, and just as I thought, the unenlightened kept steppin' I jumped in the buggy, harnessed up my ride, I got reflective triangles front and back, side to side Then I let the sound of silence stay I was hummin' hymns in a somber way I was Amish, Amish at the top of the list, Then I played my own hymn, it went somethin' like this: "Cruisin down the street in my buggy-yo', not looking at ladies, not dancin' ya know, I went to the barn, to get some hay, This horse be eatin' it all day." A car pulls up, who can it be? It's a load of tourists lookin' to buy cabinets from me. He rolls down the window and he starts to say: "You and your friends all about makin' that woodwork, eh?" Cuz the boys in the Ordnung are always modest Come needin' a hand and you'll get it, honest Knowin' nothin' in life but to be legit, Don't photograph me boy, I can't have it. ![]() RE: Why is the Muslim religion a "religion of peace"? - GMDino - 10-20-2015 (10-20-2015, 12:50 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Depends on the branches/sect/denominations. I don't think anyone could deny the Amish as having a religion of peace. (10-20-2015, 01:14 PM)Benton Wrote: ![]() http://www.amazon.com/dp/1421415674/?tag=saloncom08-20 Quote:On the night of September 6, 2011, terror called at the Amish home of the Millers. Answering a late-night knock from what appeared to be an Amish neighbor, Mrs. Miller opened the door to her five estranged adult sons, a daughter, and their spouses. It wasn’t a friendly visit. Within moments, the men, wearing headlamps, had pulled their frightened father out of bed, pinned him into a chair, and―ignoring his tearful protests―sheared his hair and beard, leaving him razor-burned and dripping with blood. RE: Why is the Muslim religion a "religion of peace"? - Nebuchadnezzar - 10-20-2015 Religion isn't the problem, it's the religious that is. RE: Why is the Muslim religion a "religion of peace"? - StLucieBengal - 10-20-2015 Violent people make everything they touch violent. Violent people use the Hadith to be violent . Then it just comes down to what you consider violent and what you do not. I do not think its a violent religion because I don't think religion In general is violent. Probably more likely the devil corrupting those within any faith who try and turn it violent. That's why peaceful people will say it's a religion of peace because for them it is.... It's all about the people. Some are good some are bad. This is partly why they probably need a reformation, like other religions have had RE: Why is the Muslim religion a "religion of peace"? - GodHatesBengals - 10-20-2015 (10-20-2015, 04:08 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Violent people make everything they touch violent. As a Catholic you are in favor of the Protestant reformation? Interesting. But yes, an Islamic reformation would be helpful, though, like all religious reformations, only a Band-Aid on the core problem. RE: Why is the Muslim religion a "religion of peace"? - StLucieBengal - 10-20-2015 (10-20-2015, 05:07 PM)GodHatesBengals Wrote: As a Catholic you are in favor of the Protestant reformation? Interesting. I like to think of as a course correction rather than a band aid. You need to update with modern society. RE: Why is the Muslim religion a "religion of peace"? - GodHatesBengals - 10-20-2015 (10-20-2015, 05:12 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: I like to think of as a course correction rather than a band aid. You need to update with modern society. God's laws need to be updated by man? See why convincing religious types they need to adjust their beliefs is hard? That's why I called it a Band-Aid. It can never completely convince the adherents, and it cannot cure the underlying problem: irrational beliefs. RE: Why is the Muslim religion a "religion of peace"? - StLucieBengal - 10-20-2015 (10-20-2015, 05:21 PM)GodHatesBengals Wrote: God's laws need to be updated by man? Stoning someone who steals shouldn't happen today. We have laws to handle these things. Back in the day..... We didn't have these things and stoning was the form of punishment. Just as the Muslim way of grooming young girls to be Muslims means they are to be raped by Muslim men. That should be replaced with maybe Quran study. RE: Why is the Muslim religion a "religion of peace"? - GodHatesBengals - 10-20-2015 (10-20-2015, 05:40 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Stoning someone who steals shouldn't happen today. We have laws to handle these things. Back in the day..... We didn't have these things and stoning was the form of punishment. Um. So God only made that law because it was impossible not to stone people back then, but it's possible now and God therefore wants us to change? How do you know any of this? RE: Why is the Muslim religion a "religion of peace"? - Rotobeast - 10-20-2015 (10-20-2015, 01:14 PM)Benton Wrote: Little Wayne (on that show) plays softball in my town. I just seen him on Main St a couple of weeks ago. Merlin's dad has a vinyl siding business in Winesburg. RE: Why is the Muslim religion a "religion of peace"? - Belsnickel - 10-20-2015 (10-20-2015, 10:02 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: Little Wayne (on that show) plays softball in my town. Yeah, don't get me started on that show. I could go on several rants about the lack of reality in that reality show. :snark: RE: Why is the Muslim religion a "religion of peace"? - Bengalzona - 10-20-2015 I've recently been reading some on the history of Islam. Based upon their history, they have been more cruel and violent than even Christianity (which easily occupies the #2 spot alone). If you look at the history, you see in Islam every violent thing which Christianity has been condemned, only on a grander scale: slavery, racism, colonization, forced conversions, torture, executions, holy wars, church sanctioned raping and pillaging, ethnic cleansing, etc. It's all there. In fact, I am of the opinion that Western Societies learned or relearned many of these behaviors from Muslims. |