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ACLU attorney: Biloxi is 'generating revenue off the backs of the poor' - GMDino - 10-22-2015 I totally agree people should pay their fines if convicted or if they choose not to fight the ticket. But I thought debtor prisons were illegal? Or is there some loophole they are using here? Either way I never understood the concept of putting people in prison where they have no hope of getting the money to pay fine because they did not have the money to pay a fine. http://www.wlox.com/story/30321476/aclu-attorney-biloxi-is-generating-revenue-off-the-backs-of-the-poor Quote:BILOXI, MS (WLOX) - RE: ACLU attorney: Biloxi is 'generating revenue off the backs of the poor' - mallorian69 - 10-22-2015 What would you have them do, let people break the law with no consequences? "Since you are to poor to pay the fine just go ahead and keep breaking the law and we won't do anything to you." RE: ACLU attorney: Biloxi is 'generating revenue off the backs of the poor' - GMDino - 10-22-2015 (10-22-2015, 09:52 AM)mallorian69 Wrote: What would you have them do, let people break the law with no consequences? "Since you are to poor to pay the fine just go ahead and keep breaking the law and we won't do anything to you." Community service? Work out a payment plan? Anything other than arrest them and make it so they can never pay their fine? RE: ACLU attorney: Biloxi is 'generating revenue off the backs of the poor' - GodHatesBengals - 10-22-2015 (10-22-2015, 09:54 AM)GMDino Wrote: Community service? Preposterous! We need to be fiscally conservative enough to spend money on keeping them in jail and never give them an opportunity to pay back the cost of their crimes! RE: ACLU attorney: Biloxi is 'generating revenue off the backs of the poor' - GMDino - 10-22-2015 (10-22-2015, 10:06 AM)GodHatesBengals Wrote: Preposterous! ![]() RE: ACLU attorney: Biloxi is 'generating revenue off the backs of the poor' - Ryuko - 10-22-2015 (10-22-2015, 10:06 AM)GodHatesBengals Wrote: Preposterous! It'd be nice if prisons were made to be self-sufficient. Y'know, where prisoners actually did supervised manual labor for the state, such as running farms, digging irrigation, mending roads, etc. But then again, requiring people to be outdoors and away from cable television seems to cause outcries of "cruel and unusual" in today's world. You used to "pay your debt to society" in prison. Now you just sit around and wait to be somebody's prison-wife. RE: ACLU attorney: Biloxi is 'generating revenue off the backs of the poor' - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 10-22-2015 (10-22-2015, 09:54 AM)GMDino Wrote: Community service? Pretty much this. The activity in OP is completely illegal in CA. Here you have the option to serve jail time in lieu of paying a fine but you cannot be forced to do so. But, we are talking about the deep south here so I'm not shocked at all. RE: ACLU attorney: Biloxi is 'generating revenue off the backs of the poor' - SteelCitySouth - 10-22-2015 (10-22-2015, 10:40 AM)Ryuko Wrote: It'd be nice if prisons were made to be self-sufficient. Y'know, where prisoners actually did supervised manual labor for the state, such as running farms, digging irrigation, mending roads, etc. But then again, requiring people to be outdoors and away from cable television seems to cause outcries of "cruel and unusual" in today's world. You really think all of those highlighted proposals are not happening because of "cruel and unusual" punishment? Dude if this is what you think..... I'm going to start you on your way towards enlightenment. Finish this statement. If roads were built by prisoners as free labor.....then? RE: ACLU attorney: Biloxi is 'generating revenue off the backs of the poor' - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 10-22-2015 (10-22-2015, 10:49 AM)SteelCitySouth Wrote: You really think all of those highlighted proposals are not happening because of "cruel and unusual" punishment? Dude if this is what you think..... I get rich? RE: ACLU attorney: Biloxi is 'generating revenue off the backs of the poor' - Ryuko - 10-22-2015 (10-22-2015, 10:49 AM)SteelCitySouth Wrote: You really think all of those highlighted proposals are not happening because of "cruel and unusual" punishment? Dude if this is what you think..... You're working your way towards a slavery argument, I suppose? Which in your mind is somehow different from cruel and unusual punishment? Nice try. RE: ACLU attorney: Biloxi is 'generating revenue off the backs of the poor' - GodHatesBengals - 10-22-2015 (10-22-2015, 10:49 AM)SteelCitySouth Wrote: You really think all of those highlighted proposals are not happening because of "cruel and unusual" punishment? Dude if this is what you think..... Then they'll probably whine as much as those dark-skinned people did when they became ungrateful for being taken from Africa! But he's right: prisons never, ever require labor from prisoners anymore. Hell, everyone in America is lazy except him! RE: ACLU attorney: Biloxi is 'generating revenue off the backs of the poor' - Ryuko - 10-22-2015 (10-22-2015, 11:02 AM)GodHatesBengals Wrote: Then they'll probably whine as much as those dark-skinned people did when they became ungrateful for being taken from Africa! Yeah, us law-abiding citizens get all the breaks. ![]() P.S. I was sworn into the Navy in 2007, and have been in ever since. What's your resume of hard work? RE: ACLU attorney: Biloxi is 'generating revenue off the backs of the poor' - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 10-22-2015 (10-22-2015, 11:01 AM)Ryuko Wrote: You're working your way towards a slavery argument, I suppose? Or, just maybe, the pool of free labor takes away paying jobs from non-criminals? Guess what, prisoners do work right now, they just don't do jobs that would replace an actual citizen. RE: ACLU attorney: Biloxi is 'generating revenue off the backs of the poor' - SteelCitySouth - 10-22-2015 (10-22-2015, 11:01 AM)Ryuko Wrote: You're working your way towards a slavery argument, I suppose? Not at all...Have you never heard of lobbyist? Nice try though... ![]() RE: ACLU attorney: Biloxi is 'generating revenue off the backs of the poor' - SteelCitySouth - 10-22-2015 (10-22-2015, 11:07 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Or, just maybe, the pool of free labor takes away paying jobs from non-criminals? Guess what, prisoners do work right now, they just don't do jobs that would replace an actual citizen. DING DING DING DING!!! RE: ACLU attorney: Biloxi is 'generating revenue off the backs of the poor' - Ryuko - 10-22-2015 (10-22-2015, 11:07 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Or, just maybe, the pool of free labor takes away paying jobs from non-criminals? Guess what, prisoners do work right now, they just don't do jobs that would replace an actual citizen. Right, so they don't take the jobs of law-abiding citizens... They just take their tax dollars. My point is that prisons should be at least self-sufficient, and they aren't. The "any work they do takes jobs away from someone else" is advocating for laziness like I've never seen. Every job anyone does is a job that someone else could be doing. But doing work and gaining experience gives them a better chance to succeed once they get out. RE: ACLU attorney: Biloxi is 'generating revenue off the backs of the poor' - GodHatesBengals - 10-22-2015 (10-22-2015, 11:15 AM)Ryuko Wrote: Right, so they don't take the jobs of law-abiding citizens... They just take their tax dollars. My point is that prisons should be at least self-sufficient, and they aren't. The "any work they do takes jobs away from someone else" is advocating for laziness like I've never seen. Every job anyone does is a job that someone else could be doing. But doing work and gaining experience gives them a better chance to succeed once they get out. So in other words, you didn't bother clicking the link in my post because reading the reality of penal labor in the U.S. would totally demolish everything you're saying. I empathize with your struggle. Reality makes it really difficult to go on the self-aggrandizing rants you require for validation, doesn't it? RE: ACLU attorney: Biloxi is 'generating revenue off the backs of the poor' - GodHatesBengals - 10-22-2015 (10-22-2015, 11:21 AM)Ryuko Wrote: You missed the point. I work equally as hard as my brothers-in-arms, as well as millions of other Americans... Not including those who go outside the law and wind up in jail as a result. Yes. So your only sense of self-worth is in believing you work more than all the people you don't like, even people who work without pay. Thanks for clarifying. RE: ACLU attorney: Biloxi is 'generating revenue off the backs of the poor' - SteelCitySouth - 10-22-2015 (10-22-2015, 11:15 AM)Ryuko Wrote: Right, so they don't take the jobs of law-abiding citizens... They just take their tax dollars. My point is that prisons should be at least self-sufficient, and they aren't. The "any work they do takes jobs away from someone else" is advocating for laziness like I've never seen. Every job anyone does is a job that someone else could be doing. But doing work and gaining experience gives them a better chance to succeed once they get out. Let's bring this back to your post and stop with the "any" comments. Your post was talking about building roads etc. You want to make them self sufficient that is fine. What I was pointing out was your misunderstanding of why they don't do these jobs. They don't do them because those job areas have strong organized lobbies that work the government for those lucrative contracts. Not and I stress..."NOT because they don't want to get outside and away from cable tv. RE: ACLU attorney: Biloxi is 'generating revenue off the backs of the poor' - Rotobeast - 10-22-2015 (10-22-2015, 07:59 AM)GMDino Wrote: I totally agree people should pay their fines if convicted or if they choose not to fight the ticket. But I thought debtor prisons were illegal? Or is there some loophole they are using here? Sooooooo...... are they going to champion for all the dead-beat dads sitting in jail for failure to pay child support ? It would seem the same situation, to me. |