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How Is This Not Treason? - TheLeonardLeap - 05-05-2021 I guess they don't really charge people with that anymore? Sailor takes a photo in a sub, they go to jail. Big military contractor corp sends diagrams of a $1.5t program fighter and others to China and other countries? A mere $8 million fine paid over a 2 year span... for a company that NETS over $6 BILLION a year... and they'll go right on getting more government contracts somehow. https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/us-fines-honeywell-2413-million-for-unauthorized-export-of-defense-manufacturing-layouts-to-china/ar-BB1gnQe2?ocid=uxbndlbing Quote:The US State Department said it has settled an "administrative settlement" with Honeywell International to resolve alleged violations of the Arms Export Control Act. RE: How Is This Not Treason? - michaelsean - 05-05-2021 Treason involves aid and comfort to an enemy which has been defined as a country we are actually at war with. They shouldn’t ever get another contract though. RE: How Is This Not Treason? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 05-05-2021 (05-05-2021, 10:05 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Treason involves aid and comfort to an enemy which has been defined as a country we are actually at war with. They shouldn’t ever get another contract though. This on both counts. RE: How Is This Not Treason? - NATI BENGALS - 05-05-2021 They self reported what now? RE: How Is This Not Treason? - TheLeonardLeap - 05-06-2021 (05-05-2021, 10:40 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: They self reported what now? Only after doing it for at least 6 years over a 8 year span... that we know about. RE: How Is This Not Treason? - CJD - 05-10-2021 If the penalty for violating a law is only a fine, then it's essentially only a law for poor people. I know that there have been banks that treated (and may still treat) fines from the government for unethical practices as just the cost of doing business. If committing a crime with only a fine as a penalty generates more revenue than the cost of the fine, companies will still do those crimes. Especially since they would only owe the fine if they are caught. Look at the housing market crash and financial crisis of 2008. Billions of dollars in fines, but what...1 person was sentenced to prison in America? You can't hold companies accountable to the law until you start holding the owners and decision makers of those companies responsible as well. Hopefully, we at least never give this company a contract ever again. RE: How Is This Not Treason? - Dill - 05-12-2021 (05-05-2021, 07:45 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I guess they don't really charge people with that anymore? Sailor takes a photo in a sub, they go to jail. Big military contractor corp sends diagrams of a $1.5t program fighter and others to China and other countries? A mere $8 million fine paid over a 2 year span... for a company that NETS over $6 BILLION a year... and they'll go right on getting more government contracts somehow. Actually, I see more clarity in the case of the Sailor. I am bothered if the gov doesn't look more closely at possible espionage, but couldn't this just be a stupid error of a kind that commonly occurs with a lot of people with design/engineering jobs working together on tasks where oversight becomes tedious and slows work? Also this may depend somewhat on the worker/manager awareness. How "civilian" are they? Never been in the military? Never been on that sub? Possibly not thinking op sec at all, even if they've watched the videos and gotten the clearances. Submariner knows very well where he's not supposed to be taking pictures. |