Biden's Paying Illegal Immigrant Families...... - Printable Version +- Cincinnati Bengals Message Board / Forums - Home of Jungle Noise (http://thebengalsboard.com) +-- Forum: Off Topic Forums (http://thebengalsboard.com/Forum-Off-Topic-Forums) +--- Forum: Politics & Religion 2.0 (http://thebengalsboard.com/Forum-Politics-Religion-2-0) +--- Thread: Biden's Paying Illegal Immigrant Families...... (/Thread-Biden-s-Paying-Illegal-Immigrant-Families) |
Biden's Paying Illegal Immigrant Families...... - BFritz21 - 10-30-2021 Are you serious? Biden is going to pay families that were separated at the border as much as $450,000 PER PERSON! Quote:The Wall Street Journal broke the news that the Biden administration is looking to settle with the immigrant families who were separated from their children during the Trump administration’s “Zero Tolerance” policy, which it later abandoned and a judge halted, ordering the reunification of the families. As The Washington Post and others confirmed, the administration is reportedly considering paying as much as $450,000 per person. How does that make any sense? Giving people who aren't even citizens of this country money for breaking our laws? Not only that, I think this opens a can of worms because what's to stop American citizens in jails from suing for being separated from their families? Screw helping out our own citizens! Let's spend a fortune to pay illegal aliens for breaking our laws! How the hell did Democrats elect this guy? Are all of you happy with this? RE: Biden's Paying Illegal Immigrant Families...... - GMDino - 10-30-2021 Tell me you didn't finish reading the article without telling me you didn't finish reading the article. (10-30-2021, 06:20 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Are you serious? Biden is going to pay families that were separated at the border as much as $450,000 PER PERSON! BOLD mine Quote:There is no question that, on its surface, this is not something the Biden administration will love taking part in. Even from a raw political perspective, giving huge sums of money to noncitizens who might or might not have had legitimate asylum claims to enter the United States means it takes some ownership of an extremely divisive situation, when it doesn’t have to. I don't know if the dollar amount is right or wrong. I do know there are current suits that need settled and sometimes an administration faces up and does the hard things that will make them look bad when the other side oversimplifies a complicated situation. RE: Biden's Paying Illegal Immigrant Families...... - CKwi88 - 10-31-2021 (10-30-2021, 09:14 PM)GMDino Wrote: Tell me you didn't finish reading the article without telling me you didn't finish reading the article. I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you. Another mess Biden has to clean up. RE: Biden's Paying Illegal Immigrant Families...... - BFritz21 - 10-31-2021 (10-30-2021, 09:14 PM)GMDino Wrote: Tell me you didn't finish reading the article without telling me you didn't finish reading the article. So why can't people in jail sue for being separated from their families? That's why it makes ZERO sense. RE: Biden's Paying Illegal Immigrant Families...... - BigPapaKain - 10-31-2021 (10-31-2021, 03:31 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: So why can't people in jail sue for being separated from their families? When you can't even be ****** to read the important parts someone else highlights for you. RE: Biden's Paying Illegal Immigrant Families...... - BFritz21 - 10-31-2021 (10-31-2021, 03:40 AM)BigPapaKain Wrote: When you can't even be ****** to read the important parts someone else highlights for you. I did read the highlighted parts. It makes zero sense. Just because you highlight something doesn't mean it answers a question. RE: Biden's Paying Illegal Immigrant Families...... - BigPapaKain - 10-31-2021 (10-31-2021, 04:20 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: I did read the highlighted parts. It makes zero sense. It does if you read it without a raging hate boner. RE: Biden's Paying Illegal Immigrant Families...... - BFritz21 - 10-31-2021 (10-31-2021, 01:20 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: It does if you read it without a raging hate boner. I read it multiple times. It makes zero sense. RE: Biden's Paying Illegal Immigrant Families...... - Tiger Teeth - 11-01-2021 (10-31-2021, 01:20 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: It does if you read it without a raging hate boner. I'm sorry, but that caught me off guard. However, I'm slightly stoned. But that deserves rep! RE: Biden's Paying Illegal Immigrant Families...... - Belsnickel - 11-01-2021 (10-31-2021, 03:31 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: So why can't people in jail sue for being separated from their families? The Trump administration policy was on shaky legal grounds, both domestically and internationally. There are many experts that said it was a human rights violation and violated international law regarding asylum and dealing with children. Domestically, the separation policy and indefinite detention could have been seen to be a violation of the cruel and unusual clause in the Constitution as well as a violation of our own laws regarding the process of handling asylum cases and dealing with minors. If U.S. citizens are imprisoned in a manner that violates their rights, they also have the ability to seek damages from the government. Guilty or not. RE: Biden's Paying Illegal Immigrant Families...... - CJD - 11-01-2021 (10-30-2021, 06:20 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Screw helping out our own citizens! Let's spend a fortune to pay illegal aliens for breaking our laws! Can you give me examples of what you believe the country would be better off spending that money on in order to help our citizens? RE: Biden's Paying Illegal Immigrant Families...... - BFritz21 - 11-01-2021 (11-01-2021, 08:55 AM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: Can you give me examples of what you believe the country would be better off spending that money on in order to help our citizens? Veteran services. Education for kids. Medicare. Medicaid. Pensions for government employees. Things like that. Did you really need me to list those? RE: Biden's Paying Illegal Immigrant Families...... - CJD - 11-01-2021 (11-01-2021, 09:14 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: Veteran services. I love all of those things. Why do you vote for people who don't want to spend money on those things and/or call them socialism in other topics? RE: Biden's Paying Illegal Immigrant Families...... - Nately120 - 11-01-2021 (11-01-2021, 09:14 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: Veteran services. I was going to post something sarcastic, but hearing that you want me to have a better pension has melted my icy heart. RE: Biden's Paying Illegal Immigrant Families...... - Vas Deferens - 11-01-2021 (11-01-2021, 09:15 AM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: I love all of those things. BECAUSE IT MAKES ZERO SENSE! RE: Biden's Paying Illegal Immigrant Families...... - BFritz21 - 11-01-2021 (11-01-2021, 09:15 AM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: I love all of those things. Way to deflect. Would the money be better off on those things? RE: Biden's Paying Illegal Immigrant Families...... - Nately120 - 11-01-2021 (11-01-2021, 05:30 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Way to deflect. Maybe. Stuff like this is interesting because we want to help people as long as they were born on a certain side of a man-made line in the sand. RE: Biden's Paying Illegal Immigrant Families...... - CJD - 11-01-2021 (11-01-2021, 05:30 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Way to deflect. It's not a deflection dude. I asked you the question, not the other way around. I asked you that question because you right wingers can ALWAYS think of "better ways" to spend money that you think is improperly allocated but, when push comes to shove, you still wouldn't spend it on the things you claim are the "better ways." So you saying there are better ways to spend that money is bullshit. You don't think the government should spend money. So just say that. Don't pretend like you want to actually help our citizens. As for my opinion, I would prefer we spend that money on helping our citizens (but like, for real. Not in the way Republicans say they would), but I also realize that that money is already spent. I think settling these lawsuits will probably be cheaper than going to court and letting the immigrants detail how the Trump administration treated them. Not only will they tie up courts and judges, which is already a problem in our legal system right now, but they are probably pretty compelling cases, given the inclination to settle. Corporations (or, in this case, governments) don't settle if they are confident they can win in court, after all. If you're looking for someone to blame for that money going out the door, look no further than Donald J. Trump who believed that separating and losing track of children and their parents was an appropriate response to people fleeing their country out of fear. RE: Biden's Paying Illegal Immigrant Families...... - Goalpost - 11-01-2021 There is clear evidence that caging and separating children was going on before Trump. We know this because one media company put a picture on the cover of a magazine, saying look what Trump is doing, when in fact the pictures predated to Obama. RE: Biden's Paying Illegal Immigrant Families...... - BFritz21 - 11-01-2021 (11-01-2021, 05:40 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: It's not a deflection dude. I asked you the question, not the other way around. I asked you that question because you right wingers can ALWAYS think of "better ways" to spend money that you think is improperly allocated but, when push comes to shove, you still wouldn't spend it on the things you claim are the "better ways."Quote below kind of kills your entire argument that it's Trump's fault, huh? (11-01-2021, 05:49 PM)Goalpost Wrote: There is clear evidence that caging and separating children was going on before Trump. We know this because one media company put a picture on the cover of a magazine, saying look what Trump is doing, when in fact the pictures predated to Obama. I completely forgot about all that! I believe I actually made a thread (or at least commented) about it! |