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Study on gay marriage views retracted after allegations of fake data - GMDino - 05-23-2015 So over in the Political Meme / Jokes thread I was asked to reconsider the stance that people are born gay. Rather than derail that thread more I'll post it here. (05-19-2015, 12:39 PM)Aquapod770 Wrote: Man GMDino, you've been really slipping lately. As of right now there is no credible scientific evidence to say that people are born gay. According to current science, it is indeed a choice. Sadly people believe song lyrics now more than actual research. Hey! I had a chance to look that up! http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/science-retraction-gay-marriage-views-fake-data-118131.html Quote:One of the authors of a recent study that claimed that short conversations with gay people could change minds on same-sex marriage has retracted it. Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/science-retraction-gay-marriage-views-fake-data-118131.html#ixzz3avW7kIFT RE: Study on gay marriage views retracted after allegations of fake data - RICHMONDBENGAL_07 - 05-23-2015 (05-23-2015, 12:06 AM)GMDino Wrote: So over in the Political Meme / Jokes thread I was asked to reconsider the stance that people are born gay. Bravo sir. I honestly don't understand how anybody can think it's a choice. I saw the meme's/joke thread that you're referring to but didn't want to derail the thread either. RE: Study on gay marriage views retracted after allegations of fake data - Johnny Cupcakes - 05-23-2015 No one really thinks that being gay is a choice. It's just something that religious people say that they think helps them look like less of a piece of shit. RE: Study on gay marriage views retracted after allegations of fake data - Belsnickel - 05-23-2015 (05-23-2015, 11:56 AM)Johnny Cupcakes Wrote: No one really thinks that being gay is a choice. It's just something that religious people say that they think helps them look like less of a piece of shit. Which is ironic when you think about it. Since they use the idea that it is a choice to say they don't deserve their rights to be protected when their religion is a choice they make, and it qualifies for protection. RE: Study on gay marriage views retracted after allegations of fake data - bfine32 - 05-23-2015 (05-23-2015, 02:05 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Which is ironic when you think about it. Since they use the idea that it is a choice to say they don't deserve their rights to be protected when their religion is a choice they make, and it qualifies for protection. If you are not religious, then how do you know that those that are choose to be? How do you know they are not called or something within them compels them to be? If you do not have the passion, then how do you know what causes it? RE: Study on gay marriage views retracted after allegations of fake data - GodHatesBengals - 05-23-2015 I'm tired of people picking on *****. RE: Study on gay marriage views retracted after allegations of fake data - Johnny Cupcakes - 05-23-2015 (05-23-2015, 03:23 PM)bfine32 Wrote: If you are not religious, then how do you know that those that are choose to be? How do you know they are not called or something within them compels them to be? If you do not have the passion, then how do you know what causes it? You're right, really. For most people, religion is not really a choice. They were just born that way. RE: Study on gay marriage views retracted after allegations of fake data - BmorePat87 - 05-23-2015 (05-23-2015, 03:49 PM)Johnny Cupcakes Wrote: You're right, really. For most people, religion is not really a choice. They were just born that way. Some people are born with something in them that tells them that they should love a man. But only if that man is named Jesus. RE: Study on gay marriage views retracted after allegations of fake data - bfine32 - 05-23-2015 (05-23-2015, 03:49 PM)Johnny Cupcakes Wrote: You're right, really. For most people, religion is not really a choice. They were just born that way. You could be right. I have 2 sons, we raised them both similarly. One really took to our religion, he thirsted for it and wanted to be in the church whenever he could: Sunday Morning, Sunday Evenings, Wednesday Nights, Vacation Bible School, etc… The other considered even attending Sunday morning service to be a chore and one he would avoid every chance he could get. I wonder why they didn’t make the same “choice”. RE: Study on gay marriage views retracted after allegations of fake data - bfine32 - 05-23-2015 (05-23-2015, 03:59 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Some people are born with something in them that tells them that they should love a man. I love lots of men, just never had sex with one. RE: Study on gay marriage views retracted after allegations of fake data - RICHMONDBENGAL_07 - 05-23-2015 (05-23-2015, 03:23 PM)bfine32 Wrote: If you are not religious, then how do you know that those that are choose to be? How do you know they are not called or something within them compels them to be? If you do not have the passion, then how do you know what causes it? It's my understanding the spirit of Christ compels them. RE: Study on gay marriage views retracted after allegations of fake data - BmorePat87 - 05-23-2015 (05-23-2015, 04:12 PM)RICHMONDBENGAL_07 Wrote: It's my understanding the spirit of Christ compels them. Spirit, huh? I heard LBJ called his "Jumbo". RE: Study on gay marriage views retracted after allegations of fake data - BmorePat87 - 05-23-2015 (05-23-2015, 04:05 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I love lots of men, just never had sex with one. Keep trying. I'm sure one will say yes. RE: Study on gay marriage views retracted after allegations of fake data - bfine32 - 05-23-2015 (05-23-2015, 04:18 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Keep trying. I'm sure one will say yes. Quit flirting. I'm just not interested. RE: Study on gay marriage views retracted after allegations of fake data - Aquapod770 - 05-23-2015 So you disproved one study saying they found evidence that it was a choice. All I said was as of now there is no [undeniable] evidence that people are born gay. Now with that said there has been a study recently that suggests their could be genetic markers on the X on chromosome 8 that influence homosexuality, but doesn't offer any conclusive proof. It could be a "step in the right direction", but some other studies have showed no correlation between homosexuality and male chromosome X. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/17/genetic-link-male-homosexuality_n_6171244.html RE: Study on gay marriage views retracted after allegations of fake data - BmorePat87 - 05-23-2015 (05-23-2015, 04:23 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Quit flirting. I'm just not interested. Sorry, Cincy's Best wanted me to ask for him. I'll tell him you weren't born that way. RE: Study on gay marriage views retracted after allegations of fake data - RICHMONDBENGAL_07 - 05-23-2015 (05-23-2015, 04:26 PM)Aquapod770 Wrote: So you disproved one study saying they found evidence that it was a choice. All I said was as of now there is no [undeniable] evidence that people are born gay. I freely admit that I'm not a scientist nor do I claim to have a plethora of scientific knowledge. That being said, since I can remember I've just always been attracted to girls/women. But I have a younger cousin who've all known he was gay since he was little and just "came out" couple of years ago. Then there are some that seem to be attracted to both. I don't think any of us made a conscious decision. Therefore is it really a choice? I can't logically conclude that it is. RE: Study on gay marriage views retracted after allegations of fake data - BmorePat87 - 05-23-2015 (05-23-2015, 04:26 PM)Aquapod770 Wrote: So you disproved one study saying they found evidence that it was a choice. All I said was as of now there is no [undeniable] evidence that people are born gay. I wasn't quite sure why he posted this study. All it says is that one of the guys who did the study probably faked data showing that talking to gay people overwhelmingly changed the opinion of those who are against gay marriage. It doesn't really show that being gay is or is not a choice. The thread just kinda went in that direction. Unless I am missing something. RE: Study on gay marriage views retracted after allegations of fake data - Aquapod770 - 05-23-2015 (05-23-2015, 04:39 PM)RICHMONDBENGAL_07 Wrote: I freely admit that I'm not a scientist nor do I claim to have a plethora of scientific knowledge. That being said, since I can remember I've just always been attracted to girls/women. But I have a younger cousin who've all known he was gay since he was little and just "came out" couple of years ago. Then there are some that seem to be attracted to both. I don't think any of us made a conscious decision. Therefore is it really a choice? I can't logically conclude that it is. Admittedly choice may not be the best word. It is most likely a combination of social, cultural, external, parental, and other factors that go into being gay. My point is that there is very little credible proof that being gay is genetic. As of right now, people are not born gay. RE: Study on gay marriage views retracted after allegations of fake data - RICHMONDBENGAL_07 - 05-23-2015 (05-23-2015, 04:48 PM)Aquapod770 Wrote: Admittedly choice may not be the best word. It is most likely a combination of social, cultural, external, parental, and other factors that go into being gay. My point is that there is very little credible proof that being gay is genetic. As of right now, people are not born gay. That may be true to an extent, but probably not most cases. For example my cousins parents are heterosexual, catholic, and live in white suburbia. I doubt any one of the those highlighted above had anything to do with him being gay. Whether you want to call it "genetic" or whatever makes no difference to me. But for what ever reason they just seemed to be "wired" differently than me. Again it just logically makes sense to me. |