(04-11-2022, 11:16 AM)CloeHokie Wrote: Lately a lot of you have said I will never give up on a early draft pick like Carman. He's too early of a pick to draft a possible replacement. I have made the argument that waiting to bring in competition regardless of where they are drafted can be harmful to the team.

Let's look at Zach Wilson. First round pick and early. He's awful. I don't need 3 more seasons to see it. Neither do most FA who aren't desperate according to this

"An NFL executive told Sando that the Jets "were in on a ton of guys and got nobody," including Tyreek Hill, who chose the Dolphins over the Jets when Kansas City granted him permission to seek a trade in March. “They don’t have a selling point to players right now," the executive said. "People don’t know what to think of Zach Wilson, players don’t necessarily covet playing in that market, and guys who have choices tend to wind up elsewhere. They are in this weird purgatory."

How long should the Jets just sit back and say hey he's the guy. We don't need to bring in any competition. Should no one challenge him for the starting job? If so how does that not hurt they team? Letting a garbage bag in there for another 3 years just because? Maybe he will improve!  I'd say Joe flacco isn't really competition so let's see how it pans out for them sticking to their guns this year. Everything I have ever watched and seen tells me they will be wrong. But hey, let optimism run the franchise and let's see where it gets them! If they are smart they should see what QBs are around in this draft at least later to bring in some competition in case he doesn't get better which seems most likely to me

(04-11-2022, 11:16 AM)CloeHokie Wrote: Lately a lot of you have said I will never give up on a early draft pick like Carman. He's too early of a pick to draft a possible replacement. I have made the argument that waiting to bring in competition regardless of where they are drafted can be harmful to the team.

Let's look at Zach Wilson. First round pick and early. He's awful. I don't need 3 more seasons to see it. Neither do most FA who aren't desperate according to this

"An NFL executive told Sando that the Jets "were in on a ton of guys and got nobody," including Tyreek Hill, who chose the Dolphins over the Jets when Kansas City granted him permission to seek a trade in March. “They don’t have a selling point to players right now," the executive said. "People don’t know what to think of Zach Wilson, players don’t necessarily covet playing in that market, and guys who have choices tend to wind up elsewhere. They are in this weird purgatory."

How long should the Jets just sit back and say hey he's the guy. We don't need to bring in any competition. Should no one challenge him for the starting job? If so how does that not hurt they team? Letting a garbage bag in there for another 3 years just because? Maybe he will improve! I'd say Joe flacco isn't really competition so let's see how it pans out for them sticking to their guns this year. Everything I have ever watched and seen tells me they will be wrong. But hey, let optimism run the franchise and let's see where it gets them! If they are smart they should see what QBs are around in this draft at least later to bring in some competition in case he doesn't get better which seems most likely to me

(04-14-2022, 09:24 AM)Sled21 Wrote: I still can't believe we are still  having these conversations about Carman. The dude was a rookie coming off back surgery, who not only changed positions but also changed sides of the line, and showed some flashes of what he's capable of, and has shown the power necessary to dominate the opposing linemen. All the coaches say is he needs to be more consistent, as almost anyone in a new job would need to be. And some are ready to already label him a bust and move on. It's just baffling.....

(12-17-2022, 12:18 PM)CloeHokie Wrote: Ahem. Like I said. Sometimes you can just see garbage. Garbage does not get better. It rots

(12-17-2022, 12:18 PM)CloeHokie Wrote: Ahem. Like I said. Sometimes you can just see garbage. Garbage does not get better. It rots

(12-19-2022, 01:00 PM)CarolinaBengalFanGuy Wrote: Speaking of Zach Wilson, I'm curious how Kenny Pickett would have been if the Jets had drafted him. Kid certainly hasn't played lights out, but you got to credit the dude for going out there and slinging the ball around and trying to make plays. I think he might be okay for Pittsburgh. Really interested to see how year two goes. Being the Steelers I hope he sucks ass, but if I try to not be biased he's intriguing.


They definitely made the right choice with Sauce Gardner.

Also I would roll with Mike White the rest of the season. Even Joe Flacco outperformed Wilson this year in my opinion. Joe should be the #2.

I think you give Wilson the rest of the year to prove himself. The Jets are going to get to a place where college QB's are going to pull an "Eli" and tell them to pick somebody, especially if they're entering the draft after having  signed a multi-millions contract in college.

Play him , then trade him. It'll let future picks know they're not forever stuck with the Jets, a QB's hraveyard.

(12-25-2022, 04:32 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Wilson has a serious attitude problem. I'd say his time in New York is over.

(12-25-2022, 04:35 PM)jfkbengals Wrote: There was a headline yesterday that the Jets FO has already decided to move on from him after this season.

(12-25-2022, 04:35 PM)jfkbengals Wrote: There was a headline yesterday that the Jets FO has already decided to move on from him after this season.