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Biological Women Are Birthing People, What Are Biological Men? - BFritz21 - 07-09-2022
If naturally born women are no longer women anymore and now are "birthing people," then what are naturally born men?
Non-birthing people?
RE: Biological Women Are Birthing People, What Are Biological Men? - pally - 07-11-2022
Aren't women people? Why shouldn't we refer to them that way?
RE: Biological Women Are Birthing People, What Are Biological Men? - HarleyDog - 07-11-2022
(07-11-2022, 10:50 AM)pally Wrote: Aren't women people? Why shouldn't we refer to them that way?
I think he's referring to the Biden Admin referring to mothers as birthing people instead of mothers.
https://www.newsweek.com/biden-admin-replaces-mothers-birthing-people-maternal-health-guidance-1598343
RE: Biological Women Are Birthing People, What Are Biological Men? - pally - 07-11-2022
(07-11-2022, 10:55 AM)HarleyDog Wrote: I think he's referring to the Biden Admin referring to mothers as birthing people instead of mothers.
https://www.newsweek.com/biden-admin-replaces-mothers-birthing-people-maternal-health-guidance-1598343
Not all mothers give birth. My niece has 4 biological children without ever carrying them or birthing them. She is still their mother.
Birthing person works just fine and is actually a more specific term than mother or woman would be under the circumstances
RE: Biological Women Are Birthing People, What Are Biological Men? - Nately120 - 07-11-2022
Are conservatives bitching about an initiative that strives to reduce our nation's maternal morality rate?
RE: Biological Women Are Birthing People, What Are Biological Men? - michaelsean - 07-11-2022
(07-11-2022, 11:30 AM)Nately120 Wrote: Are conservatives bitching about an initiative that strives to reduce our nation's maternal morality rate?
No
RE: Biological Women Are Birthing People, What Are Biological Men? - Nately120 - 07-11-2022
(07-11-2022, 11:33 AM)michaelsean Wrote: No
So why the outrage? Im not even being a smartass here, I don't get it.
It's conservative politicians who make their hay feigning outrage, isn't it?
RE: Biological Women Are Birthing People, What Are Biological Men? - GMDino - 07-11-2022
(07-11-2022, 11:34 AM)Nately120 Wrote: So why the outrage? Im not even being a smartass here, I don't get it.
It's conservative politicians who make their hay feigning outrage, isn't it?
Because Biden said something.
Ben Shapiro made an entire film out of "What is a woman?" because if the right is good at one thing its at creating fake outrage over the dumbest shit.
RE: Biological Women Are Birthing People, What Are Biological Men? - michaelsean - 07-11-2022
(07-11-2022, 11:34 AM)Nately120 Wrote: So why the outrage? Im not even being a smartass here, I don't get it.
It's conservative politicians who make their hay feigning outrage, isn't it?
They think the phrasing is stupid.
RE: Biological Women Are Birthing People, What Are Biological Men? - Nately120 - 07-11-2022
(07-11-2022, 11:48 AM)michaelsean Wrote: They think the phrasing is stupid.
Poor them.
RE: Biological Women Are Birthing People, What Are Biological Men? - XenoMorph - 07-11-2022
(07-09-2022, 04:26 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: If naturally born women are no longer women anymore and now are "birthing people," then what are naturally born men?
Non-birthing people?
Gene donors
RE: Biological Women Are Birthing People, What Are Biological Men? - Nately120 - 07-11-2022
(07-11-2022, 11:55 AM)XenoMorph Wrote: Gene donors
Not all men donate their genes and not all women give birth.
RE: Biological Women Are Birthing People, What Are Biological Men? - michaelsean - 07-11-2022
(07-11-2022, 11:57 AM)Nately120 Wrote: Not all men donate their genes and not all women give birth.
ok. just answering your question
RE: Biological Women Are Birthing People, What Are Biological Men? - hollodero - 07-11-2022
(07-11-2022, 11:48 AM)michaelsean Wrote: They think the phrasing is stupid.
Something I'd actually agree with. Even more so when the same statement uses the word "maternal", which should also be replaced, shouldn't it.
Not that it's worth any actual outrage. But it's handing the plate to the opponent and I'm not sure whether the potential benefit of this phrasing outweighs this.
RE: Biological Women Are Birthing People, What Are Biological Men? - CKwi88 - 07-11-2022
I hate inclusive language.
Not because I have anything against it, but because I work as a translator/interpreter and it is an absolute b***h to translate into Latin-derived languages.
Outside of work I couldn't care less.
RE: Biological Women Are Birthing People, What Are Biological Men? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-11-2022
This thread.
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RE: Biological Women Are Birthing People, What Are Biological Men? - Nately120 - 07-11-2022
(07-11-2022, 12:51 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: This thread.
Master baiter
Edit - or mistress baiter, if we wamt to be inclusive.
RE: Biological Women Are Birthing People, What Are Biological Men? - Matt_Crimson - 07-11-2022
(07-11-2022, 11:10 AM)pally Wrote: Not all mothers give birth. My niece has 4 biological children without ever carrying them or birthing them. She is still their mother.
Birthing person works just fine and is actually a more specific term than mother or woman would be under the circumstances
(07-11-2022, 11:30 AM)Nately120 Wrote: Are conservatives bitching about an initiative that strives to reduce our nation's maternal morality rate?
Well I mean, let's be honest here. This isn't about qualifying surrogates as "birthing people" or mortality rates.
It's specifically about the idea that men can give birth. That's the notion being rejected here.
RE: Biological Women Are Birthing People, What Are Biological Men? - BFritz21 - 07-11-2022
(07-11-2022, 11:43 AM)GMDino Wrote: Because Biden said something.
Ben Shapiro made an entire film out of "What is a woman?" because if the right is good at one thing its at creating fake outrage over the dumbest shit.
Matt Walsh made the film.
Shapiro had nothing to do with it but you obviously have no clue what you're talking about on the issue.
"Dumbest shit"?
How is that dumb?
Did you even watch the film? You think woman is a subjective term?
RE: Biological Women Are Birthing People, What Are Biological Men? - GMDino - 07-11-2022
(07-11-2022, 02:38 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Matt Walsh made the film.
Shapiro had nothing to do with it but you obviously have no clue what you're talking about on the issue.
"Dumbest shit"?
How is that dumb?
Did you even watch the film? You think woman is a subjective term?
Came up under a "Daily Wire" ad so I messed up with dummy was behind it.
Obviously it found it's target audience.
Shapiro made a movie with the woman who was fired from Disney.