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Clarence Thomas and the Billionaire - GMDino - 04-06-2023 Thomas may be the most compromised justice in my lifetime. https://www.propublica.org/article/clarence-thomas-scotus-undisclosed-luxury-travel-gifts-crow Long read so I won't copy and paste. But I guess the law doesn't matter to him unless it benefits him. They tried to warn us... RE: Clarence Thomas and the Billionaire - Mike M (the other one) - 04-06-2023 (04-06-2023, 09:05 AM)GMDino Wrote: Thomas may be the most compromised justice in my lifetime. couple of things: 1. We are sooo effed by not being in the right profession. 2. i guess i need to tell my friends to stop inviting me along on their vacations and trips and paying for everything. Don't care much for it as it opens the COI door, but until you can prove that his decisions are duly influenced, then no issues. RE: Clarence Thomas and the Billionaire - pally - 04-06-2023 Clarence Thomas has previously failed to report his wife's income on his disclosure forms RE: Clarence Thomas and the Billionaire - GMDino - 04-06-2023 (04-06-2023, 02:17 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: couple of things: Given Thomas' position I can't compare it to my buddy buying me dinner once in a while. I can offer nothing back in the form of any service that would help him. But maybe I can call it a sin of omission as it looks like he was required to report it and did not? For twenty years? See that is the problem from where I look at it. If it was all just a friend paying for their vacation then follow the rules and report it and that's that. By NOT reporting it he draws more inquiries into why. (04-06-2023, 02:44 PM)pally Wrote: Clarence Thomas has previously failed to report his wife's income on his disclosure forms Exactly. He has not been following the rules for a long time. RE: Clarence Thomas and the Billionaire - samhain - 04-06-2023 Idk. This is a bad look, but do we think getting perks from a conservative billionaire made him vote any differently? RE: Clarence Thomas and the Billionaire - Dill - 04-06-2023 (04-06-2023, 02:17 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: couple of things: I think all that is needed is to prove that Thomas didn't report as required. The requirement is there so people don't get away with what can't be "proven." RE: Clarence Thomas and the Billionaire - Nately120 - 04-06-2023 (04-06-2023, 06:13 PM)samhain Wrote: Idk. This is a bad look, but do we think getting perks from a conservative billionaire made him vote any differently? Hmm, so we're going with the Shoeless Joe defense where he may have taken a payout but his batting average is so good that he clearly didn't let the payout influence his performance? RE: Clarence Thomas and the Billionaire - Dill - 04-06-2023 (04-06-2023, 06:13 PM)samhain Wrote: Idk. This is a bad look, but do we think getting perks from a conservative billionaire made him vote any differently? It's a bad look because it makes it very hard to tell whether he is voting in the billionaires' interests, or the 99%. A quick check of Thomas' voting record might help here. How does he generally vote on cases involving the limitation of campaign donations, unions, and the like? He's pretty much on the side of "freedom," isn't he? Better yet, imagine that you are bringing a case to the Supreme Court which the billionaires would dislike, say one which makes campaign spending more transparent, blocking dark money. Why should you have to worry whether or not he will side with his friends, if voting in your favor means he could lose $500,000 vacations? During a lavish Indonesian feast or around the campfire in the Adirondacks with the head of the Federalist Society, no one will ask questions if he votes in your favor, our favor? RE: Clarence Thomas and the Billionaire - Mike M (the other one) - 04-06-2023 Has anything come up to the SC where it involved Crow or one of Crow's businesses/interests? RE: Clarence Thomas and the Billionaire - NATI BENGALS - 04-07-2023 Term limits? Traitor wife did her part trying to overturn our democratic election results. Husband getting kickbacks from a billionaire while doing his part to expand the power of the super rich and let unlimited dark money flow into our elections. Time for Clarence to go away. Freaking scumbag family. I really didn’t think my disdain for the SCOTUS could get any worse after they jammed through trumps last nominee in the waning hours of his presidency. And all the lies about settled law. I was wrong. I’m even more disgusted now. RE: Clarence Thomas and the Billionaire - Belsnickel - 04-07-2023 (04-06-2023, 10:24 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Has anything come up to the SC where it involved Crow or one of Crow's businesses/interests? Crow funds many different conservative groups that are putting cases through the courts on a regular basis. This has been going on for two decades. There is a 100% chance there has been conflict. RE: Clarence Thomas and the Billionaire - michaelsean - 04-07-2023 (04-07-2023, 04:47 AM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: Term limits? There is no such thing as settled law, and that's a good thing. Otherwise we'd have some pretty nasty rulings still in existence. Asking nominees about it is stupid, and nominees should say so. RE: Clarence Thomas and the Billionaire - Mike M (the other one) - 04-07-2023 Turnabout is fair play I suppose. Black man cant have rich white friends with out ya'll getting all up in his business. RE: Clarence Thomas and the Billionaire - GMDino - 04-07-2023 (04-07-2023, 11:57 AM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Turnabout is fair play I suppose. Wow. I really hope for forgot the ninja on that. RE: Clarence Thomas and the Billionaire - Mike M (the other one) - 04-07-2023 (04-07-2023, 09:19 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: Crow funds many different conservative groups that are putting cases through the courts on a regular basis. This has been going on for two decades. There is a 100% chance there has been conflict. Got proof? by your words should be relatively easy to prove. or just spittin in the wind? (04-07-2023, 11:59 AM)GMDino Wrote: Wow. Did you see one? He's the only black person on the USSC. Pretty clear it's targeting, just cause the Left doesn't like the way he votes. He followed the Rules as they were. The rules changed in the last month, they are not retroactive, so has he broken any since the change? RE: Clarence Thomas and the Billionaire - GMDino - 04-07-2023 (04-07-2023, 01:55 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Got proof? by your words should be relatively easy to prove. or just spittin in the wind? He has a history of not reporting what he was supposed to report. I guess we'll see if he follows any new rules. RE: Clarence Thomas and the Billionaire - GMDino - 04-07-2023 https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2023/04/06/clarence-thomas-gifts-disclosure-court/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWJpZCI6IjE4ODYwODAzIiwicmVhc29uIjoiZ2lmdCIsIm5iZiI6MTY4MDc1MzYwMCwiaXNzIjoic3Vic2NyaXB0aW9ucyIsImV4cCI6MTY4MjA0OTU5OSwiaWF0IjoxNjgwNzUzNjAwLCJqdGkiOiJkNWZiMjhjZC01Y2JmLTQxNjktOTkzYy0zNmQ5YjdjYTk0MzUiLCJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL3d3dy53YXNoaW5ndG9ucG9zdC5jb20vaW52ZXN0aWdhdGlvbnMvMjAyMy8wNC8wNi9jbGFyZW5jZS10aG9tYXMtZ2lmdHMtZGlzY2xvc3VyZS1jb3VydC8ifQ.JwAxUlU3qealBlp_6WDWONkl1stIJmVYxyFmfk812os Quote:Clarence Thomas has reported receiving only two gifts since 2004 RE: Clarence Thomas and the Billionaire - Belsnickel - 04-07-2023 (04-07-2023, 01:55 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Got proof? by your words should be relatively easy to prove. or just spittin in the wind? Harlan Crow is a founding member of Club for Growth, an organization with a PAC and Super-PAC that has been involved in several SCOTUS cases by advertising and giving financial support for one side. He is also on the board for AEI and has been for almost 30 years, a conservative think tank that regularly submits briefs to the SCOTUS. RE: Clarence Thomas and the Billionaire - Mike M (the other one) - 04-07-2023 (04-07-2023, 03:01 PM)GMDino Wrote: He has a history of not reporting what he was supposed to report. I guess we'll see if he follows any new rules. He would be in the wrong IF the rules that were changed/clarified were in effect all this time, they only came into effect in the last month. Since 1978, the Ethics in Government Act has required judges and justices to report travel costs and other expenses that are provided to them by groups, universities and other such entities. However, it includes an exception for the “personal hospitality of any individual,” so long as the travel does not involve official business. Both parties involved have clearly stated there was no BUSINESS during any these vacations. So no violations. RE: Clarence Thomas and the Billionaire - Mike M (the other one) - 04-07-2023 (04-07-2023, 03:49 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Harlan Crow is a founding member of Club for Growth, an organization with a PAC and Super-PAC that has been involved in several SCOTUS cases by advertising and giving financial support for one side. He is also on the board for AEI and has been for almost 30 years, a conservative think tank that regularly submits briefs to the SCOTUS. Definitely wrong there. He's donated to some Dems. I asked for a specific example, You are the one making the claim so prove it. |