Quote:SAN BERNARDINO, Calif. — Gunmen burst into a social services center Wednesday and opened fire, killing at least 14 people and setting off an intense manhunt and a gunfight that resulted in the death of two suspects, authorities said.

Police Chief Jarrod Burguan said the killers walked into the meeting room at the Inland Regional Center, began shooting and quickly fled in a dark-colored SUV. Hours later, officers rushed to a home, where two suspects fled in an SUV.

"One male and one female were killed," Burguan said. He said one officer was wounded in the shootout, but that the injuries were not life-threatening.

"There was a third person seen running away, that person has been detained," Burguan said. He said it was not clear if the person was involved in the massacre. He also said there still might be a suspect at-large.

Burguan said at least 14 people were killed and 17 wounded in the shooting rampage at the center. Officers searching the building later found an explosive device that had not detonated. No motive had been determined, he said. County buildings in the area were shut down.

"The information we have is they came prepared to do what they did, as if they were on a mission," Burguan said, adding that they were "equipped to get away."

Witnesses said the shooters were armed with long guns, wearing ski masks and military-style vests. Agents from the FBI, ATF and U.S. Marshal's Service had joined the investigation

"Obviously we have a domestic terrorism situation," Burguan said, adding that police have not determined a motive for the rampage.

Many of the injured were taken from the building on stretchers and strapped into gurneys. Loma Linda University Medical Center and Arrowhead Regional Medical Center said they received multiple patients from the shooting.

Marybeth Field, president and CEO of the Inland Regional Center, said the incident took place in a conference area that a county group had rented. She said about 25 employees work in the building, which provides services for people with developmental disabilities.

(12-02-2015, 11:02 PM)GMDino Wrote: Just thought I'd get that out of the way.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/12/02/officials-shooting-reported-calif-golf-course/76675776/


What in the collective hell is wrong with our country?  I thought we were better than those savages that live in countries without laws?

How many more innocent lives have to be lost?

(12-02-2015, 11:18 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Yet the FBI is waiting on further information before they consider it terrorism, but what do they know compared to Roscoe P. Coltrane of the San Bernadino Police Force.

Many are pointing to the procedures employed by the suspects point to terrorism; yet, we still have a long way to go. 

It could possibly be a love triangle. 

(12-02-2015, 11:43 PM)michaelsean Wrote: How do you say you don't know a motive and yet call it terrorism?

(12-02-2015, 11:47 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Not sure how this can be labeled terrorism. Just sounds like a local law enforcement agency trying to get as much federal help as possible by calling it terrorism before they even know a reason for the violence.

(12-02-2015, 11:51 PM)GMDino Wrote: Because its terrorism.

(12-02-2015, 11:53 PM)bfine32 Wrote: It is turning out to be a unique situation. There are elements of terrorism and elements of a crime of passion.

(12-02-2015, 11:53 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: How so? 

(12-03-2015, 12:01 AM)Rotobeast Wrote: Agreed.
Really weird.

(12-03-2015, 12:02 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Terrorism?  

Wasn't this over an argument?

Calling this terrorism is a broad sweeping generalization.  At least at this point.

Quote:Federal authorities were not ruling out the possibility of terrorism, the official said, largely because of what appears to be detailed planning involved in the attack, including the number of suspects involved, the tactical clothing worn by the suspects and the attempted plan for escape. The involvement of a woman in the attacks also marks a very rare turn for similar domestic shootings.


"The information we have is they came prepared to do what they did, as if they were on a mission," Burguan said, adding that they were "equipped to get away."
Burguan said police have not determined a motive for the rampage. Agents from the FBI, ATF and U.S. Marshal's Service had joined the investigation



David Bowdich, assistant director in charge of the FBI's Los Angeles office, said it was too early to determine if the attack was terrorism-related.

(12-03-2015, 12:02 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Terrorism?  

Wasn't this over an argument?

Calling this terrorism is a broad sweeping generalization.  At least at this point.

(12-03-2015, 12:05 AM)GMDino Wrote: Because they said so.


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terrorism

(12-03-2015, 12:08 AM)Rotobeast Wrote: Farooq Saeed was pretty well stocked for being in Commiefornia.
Varied reports of pipe bombs and something rigged to a propane tank.

But yes, to put any judgment forth would not be prudent.

Quote:Syed R. Farook
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Posted on 12/2/2015, 8:32:19 PM by LSUfan

Syed R. Farook

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Agency: San Bernardino County

Position: Environmental Health Specialist

(12-03-2015, 12:10 AM)michaelsean Wrote: I didn't see terrorism defined as mass murder.  Terrorism is a tactic.  If you don't know the motive, how can you possibly assign the tactic to them?

(12-03-2015, 12:11 AM)GMDino Wrote: Clearly a lovers spat gone bad.  Probably just a crime of passion.