(08-03-2023, 05:02 PM)pally Wrote: The AP course asks students to “describe how sex and gender influence socialization and other aspects of development.” This element of the framework is not new: gender and sexual orientation have been part of AP Psychology since the course launched 30 years ago.

As we shared in June, we cannot modify AP Psychology in response to regulations that would censor college-level standards for credit, placement, and career readiness. Our policy remains unchanged. Any course that censors required course content cannot be labeled “AP” or “Advanced Placement,” and the “AP Psychology” designation cannot be utilized on student transcripts

https://newsroom.collegeboard.org/statement-ap-psychology-and-florida

(08-03-2023, 05:02 PM)pally Wrote: Florida's ban on instruction on sexual and gender identity has effectively resulted in the banning of AP Psychology classes.  These classes designed for college credit for high school seniors and juniors provide a foundational discussion of these topics.  A person's sexual and gender identity has profound effects on their psychological health.  Removal of units to satisfy the state would result in the class no longer being accredited for college credit.  

Thousands of Florida students were already signed up for this class this fall and counting on getting some college credit for the class.  But apparently even 16-19 year olds are too young to learn that homosexuality and transgenderism exist.

https://newsroom.collegeboard.org/statement-ap-psychology-and-florida

(08-08-2023, 11:19 PM)pally Wrote: Hillsborough County (Tampa) has decided they will not require students to read entire Shakespearean plays instead pulling out only excepts for lesson.  Apparently, even the Bard is too raunchy for Floridians

https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/region-hillsborough/hillsborough-schools-cut-back-on-shakespeare-citing-new-florida-rules

(08-08-2023, 11:40 PM)Nately120 Wrote: And lo, Macbeth's amoral and frantic lust for power at any cost led to.....a golden age where he made Scotland great again!  LOCK MALCOLM UP!!!!! LOCK MALCOLM UP!!!!!

(EDITED FOR FLORIDIANS)

(08-03-2023, 05:02 PM)pally Wrote: Florida's ban on instruction on sexual and gender identity has effectively resulted in the banning of AP Psychology classes.  These classes designed for college credit for high school seniors and juniors provide a foundational discussion of these topics.  A person's sexual and gender identity has profound effects on their psychological health.  Removal of units to satisfy the state would result in the class no longer being accredited for college credit.  

Thousands of Florida students were already signed up for this class this fall and counting on getting some college credit for the class.  But apparently even 16-19 year olds are too young to learn that homosexuality and transgenderism exist.

https://newsroom.collegeboard.org/statement-ap-psychology-and-florida

(08-09-2023, 03:10 AM)CarolinaBengalFanGuy Wrote: Well that's dumb. Even from my side of the aisle it would be a mental health issue and certainly something that could should be taught in a psychology class. If we're trying to keep people from drastically altering themselves then we should at least be doing the proper study to understand the psychology behind it if we were to try and have people accept the way they were born.

(08-09-2023, 03:10 AM)CarolinaBengalFanGuy Wrote: Well that's dumb. Even from my side of the aisle it would be a mental health issue and certainly something that could should be taught in a psychology class. If we're trying to keep people from drastically altering themselves then we should at least be doing the proper study to understand the psychology behind it if we were to try and have people accept the way they were born.

(08-09-2023, 08:15 AM)Nately120 Wrote: Is this a slippery slope to banning all cosmetic surgery?  I've seen pictures, Elon Musk was not born to be a man with a full head of hair at this age. 

(08-09-2023, 01:25 PM)pally Wrote: And in today's "only in Florida"....

In Seminole County in order to prevent Bobby from calling himself Susie and vice versa, permission slips are now required for use of ANY nickname.  Legal names only, so Bobby goes back to being Robert and Susie is Susan.

Shoot I know of a few kids who wouldn't recognize their legal names, they've been called by their nicknames for their entire lives

(08-09-2023, 01:28 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Use of a "nickname" in what regard?  What constitutes a "nickname"?  A link and some context just might be important here.

(08-09-2023, 01:28 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Use of a "nickname" in what regard?  What constitutes a "nickname"?  A link and some context just might be important here.

Quote:
"They can put any of their preferred nicknames. Some students go by middle name. There are a lot of different variations, but anything that's a deviation from the legal name will need the parent's consent,” Katherine Crnkovich, Seminole County Public Schools communications officer, said.


Orange County sent a memo to its leadership with a similar parent authorization attached, calling on “parents to specify the use of any deviation from their child's legal name in school."

(08-09-2023, 02:11 PM)pally Wrote: https://www.wesh.com/article/florida-schools-nicknames-permission/44766231

(08-03-2023, 05:02 PM)pally Wrote: Florida's ban on instruction on sexual and gender identity has effectively resulted in the banning of AP Psychology classes.  These classes designed for college credit for high school seniors and juniors provide a foundational discussion of these topics.  A person's sexual and gender identity has profound effects on their psychological health.  Removal of units to satisfy the state would result in the class no longer being accredited for college credit.  

Thousands of Florida students were already signed up for this class this fall and counting on getting some college credit for the class.  But apparently even 16-19 year olds are too young to learn that homosexuality and transgenderism exist.

https://newsroom.collegeboard.org/statement-ap-psychology-and-florida

(08-09-2023, 01:25 PM)pally Wrote: And in today's "only in Florida"....

In Seminole County in order to prevent Bobby from calling himself Susie and vice versa, permission slips are now required for use of ANY nickname.  Legal names only, so Bobby goes back to being Robert and Susie is Susan.

Shoot I know of a few kids who wouldn't recognize their legal names, they've been called by their nicknames for their entire lives

(08-09-2023, 02:45 PM)basballguy Wrote: so you say "effectively resulted in the banning of AP Psychology"....is that actually the case?  Was the class banned?  Are they prevented from taking the AP exam?  

Or are we getting upset about a couple paragraphs that may not be in the curriculum anymore?

Ok i just read the actual release.  No classes have been banned....quite the opposite....it's the organization recommending to schools to not carry the class.  Totally different than what you're trying to sell here.  

"Classes have been banned!!!  But we told them to do it so it's DeSantis' fault!"

Give me a break.  :)


This sounds like an unnecessary overreaction by this school district.  

(08-09-2023, 02:45 PM)basballguy Wrote: so you say "effectively resulted in the banning of AP Psychology"....is that actually the case?  Was the class banned?  Are they prevented from taking the AP exam?  

Or are we getting upset about a couple paragraphs that may not be in the curriculum anymore?

Ok i just read the actual release.  No classes have been banned....quite the opposite....it's the organization recommending to schools to not carry the class.  Totally different than what you're trying to sell here.  

"Classes have been banned!!!  But we told them to do it so it's DeSantis' fault!"

Give me a break.  :)


This sounds like an unnecessary overreaction by this school district.  

Quote:COLLEGE BOARD

• August 3, 2023
  

[url=https://newsroom.collegeboard.org/author/college-board-communications]
We are sad to have learned that today the Florida Department of Education has effectively banned AP Psychology in the state by instructing Florida superintendents that teaching foundational content on sexual orientation and gender identity is illegal under state law. The state has said districts are free to teach AP Psychology only if it excludes any mention of these essential topics.

Quote:As we shared in June, we cannot modify AP Psychology in response to regulations that would censor college-level standards for credit, placement, and career readiness. Our policy remains unchanged. Any course that censors required course content cannot be labeled “AP” or “Advanced Placement,” and the “AP Psychology” designation cannot be utilized on student transcripts.

To be clear, any AP Psychology course taught in Florida will violate either Florida law or college requirements. Therefore, we advise Florida districts not to offer AP Psychology until Florida reverses their decision and allows parents and students to choose to take the full course.

Quote:The American Psychological Association recently reaffirmed that any course that excludes these topics would violate their guidelines and should not be considered for college credit. The APA has given this direct guidance to organizations that have agreed to this censorship.


Similarly, American Council on Education president Ted Mitchell has said: “It strains credulity to believe that our reviewers would certify for college credit a psychology course that didn’t include gender identity.”


The state’s ban of this content removes choice from parents and students. Coming just days from the start of school, it derails the college readiness and affordability plans of tens of thousands of Florida students currently registered for AP Psychology, one of the most popular AP classes in the state. AP is recognized by thousands of colleges and universities across the United States for admissions, scholarships consideration, college credit, and advanced standing. More than 28,000 Florida students took AP Psychology in the 2022-23 academic year.

(08-08-2023, 11:23 PM)GreenDragon Wrote: It's Florida. That state is trying to be the best worst state they can be.