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Biden, Trump and the economy: Who did better on inflation, jobs, gasoline prices? - GMDino - 03-06-2024 https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2024/is-economy-good-better-trump-vs-biden-jobs-inflation/ Quote:No president is all-powerful on economic matters. And there’s no simple answer for who has been the better steward. But here are some numbers.The link provides the graphs for the data points. RE: Biden, Trump and the economy: Who did better on inflation, jobs, gasoline prices? - Luvnit2 - 03-06-2024 This is the reality less than 8 months from the election. Voters feel Bidenomics sucks and liked economic policies under Trump. Only 40% of the country like Biden's economic policies. Factor in the ratio of more Democrats than Republicans, a lot of Democrats hate his economy. Click on the link and you can also see how Obama and Trump fared with the economy. https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/joe-biden/economy President Biden Job Approval - Economy President Job Approval: Biden | Trump | Obama | Bush Biden Approval on Issues: Economy | Foreign Policy | Inflation | Crime | Immigration | Ukraine | Direction of the Country POLLSTER DATE SAMPLE APPROVE DISAPPROVE SPREAD RCP Average 1/25 - 2/28 — 40.2 57.4 Spread -17.2 FOX News 2/25 - 2/28 1262 RV 37 62 Spread -25 Economist/YouGov 2/25 - 2/27 1498 RV 44 52 Spread -8 Wall Street Journal 2/21 - 2/28 1500 RV 40 58 Spread -18 Harvard-Harris 2/21 - 2/22 2022 RV 43 57 Spread -14 Quinnipiac 2/15 - 2/19 1421 RV 42 55 Spread -13 CBS News 2/13 - 2/14 1744 A 39 61 Spread -22 Financial Times/Ross 2/2 - 2/5 1006 RV 36 60 Spread -24 NPR/PBS/Marist 1/29 - 2/1 1441 RV 42 54 Spread -12 NBC News 1/26 - 1/30 1000 RV 37 60 Spread -23 Yahoo News 1/25 - 1/29 1066 RV 42 55 Spread -13 RE: Biden, Trump and the economy: Who did better on inflation, jobs, gasoline prices? - Luvnit2 - 03-06-2024 Here is most recent on immigration. Only 31% of voters approve of Biden's immigration policies, the number 1 issue right now for POTUS election in November, followed by the economy. https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/joe-biden/immigration President Biden Job Approval - Immigration President Job Approval: Biden | Trump | Obama | Bush Biden Approval on Issues: Economy | Foreign Policy | Inflation | Crime | Immigration | Ukraine | Direction of the Country POLLSTER DATE SAMPLE APPROVE DISAPPROVE SPREAD RCP Average 1/25 - 2/28 — 31.0 64.1 Spread -33.1 FOX News 2/25 - 2/28 1262 RV 31 66 Spread -35 Wall Street Journal 2/21 - 2/28 1500 RV 29 66 Spread -37 Harvard-Harris 2/21 - 2/22 2022 RV 35 65 Spread -30 Economist/YouGov 2/18 - 2/20 1360 RV 35 59 Spread -24 Monmouth 2/8 - 2/12 822 RV 26 71 Spread -45 NPR/PBS/Marist 1/29 - 2/1 1441 RV 29 61 Spread -32 Yahoo News 1/25 - 1/29 1067 RV 32 61 Spread -29 RE: Biden, Trump and the economy: Who did better on inflation, jobs, gasoline prices? - GMDino - 03-08-2024 ![]() https://x.com/atrupar/status/1766099154948800835?s=20 RE: Biden, Trump and the economy: Who did better on inflation, jobs, gasoline prices? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 03-08-2024 (03-08-2024, 07:44 PM)GMDino Wrote: The economy doing well isn't really felt when people are paying insane prices due to inflation. People believe what they see every day, not what a partisan hack like Rupar spouts on TwitterX. I took my nephews to Disney Land this week, buying food was actually cheaper than eating at a fast food place. If you know, you know. RE: Biden, Trump and the economy: Who did better on inflation, jobs, gasoline prices? - GMDino - 03-08-2024 (03-08-2024, 07:53 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: The economy doing well isn't really felt when people are paying insane prices due to inflation. People believe what they see every day, not what a partisan hack like Rupar spouts on TwitterX. I took my nephews to Disney Land this week, buying food was actually cheaper than eating at a fast food place. If you know, you know. Steve Moore is a partisan hack? For Biden? Weird! RE: Biden, Trump and the economy: Who did better on inflation, jobs, gasoline prices? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 03-08-2024 (03-08-2024, 08:15 PM)GMDino Wrote: Steve Moore is a partisan hack? For Biden? No, Aaron Rupar is. His reporting someone else's words doesn't change that. Oh wait, I get the confusion. If you like them they can't possibly be a partisan hack. RE: Biden, Trump and the economy: Who did better on inflation, jobs, gasoline prices? - GMDino - 03-08-2024 (03-08-2024, 08:52 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: No, Aaron Rupar is. His reporting someone else's words doesn't change that. Oh wait, I get the confusion. If you like them they can't possibly be a partisan hack. So a clip from FOX with a former Trump administration member isn't real because Rupar is a "hack" in your view? If I just shared the clip from FOX and NOT the same clip from Rupar does that change anything sir? RE: Biden, Trump and the economy: Who did better on inflation, jobs, gasoline prices? - SunsetBengal - 03-08-2024 (03-08-2024, 09:04 PM)GMDino Wrote: So a clip from FOX with a former Trump administration member isn't real because Rupar is a "hack" in your view? Without being able to hear what Moore says after that quoted sentence, it's all just out of context, anyway. Just more shitty journalism.. RE: Biden, Trump and the economy: Who did better on inflation, jobs, gasoline prices? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 03-08-2024 (03-08-2024, 09:04 PM)GMDino Wrote: So a clip from FOX with a former Trump administration member isn't real because Rupar is a "hack" in your view? First, you share tweets from that hack on a regular basis. Second, if you posted the entire clip from Fox, then yes. RE: Biden, Trump and the economy: Who did better on inflation, jobs, gasoline prices? - SunsetBengal - 03-08-2024 (03-08-2024, 09:21 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: First, you share tweets from that hack on a regular basis. Second, if you posted the entire clip from Fox, then yes. If he did that, the "gotcha" moment would likely lose steam... RE: Biden, Trump and the economy: Who did better on inflation, jobs, gasoline prices? - NATI BENGALS - 03-08-2024 (03-08-2024, 07:53 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: The economy doing well isn't really felt when people are paying insane prices due to inflation. People believe what they see every day, not what a partisan hack like Rupar spouts on TwitterX. I took my nephews to Disney Land this week, buying food was actually cheaper than eating at a fast food place. If you know, you know. I have a hard time with that. Because I equate it to the typical American consumer who is terrible with finances and racks up credit card debt and makes impulse buys. Takes out $400,000 student loans for a $100,000 degree. Etc I can go to McDonald’s and get two double cheeseburgers and two small fries for $7. Taco Bell and get 5 soft tacos for 8 bucks. Chipotle and get a giant burrito for a little over 9 bucks. I can go to the grocery store and spend $200 and eat great healthy food and throw out a bunch of leftovers for two weeks straight. Businesses listen when we talk with our wallets. I’m not a beer drinker but I thought about becoming one when the bud light cases were down to $5, what was that last year. Netflix is a good example. They just keep jacking up the price, and people just keep paying. So they just keep jacking. Take a look at how much money they are making. You know why the fed has held rates steady since last July? Because they are happy with how the fight against inflation is going. Look at these rate hikes. During Biden’s term as we came out of a pandemic to go into the great resignation where a bunch of people wanted a better job and more money and that caused businesses to react and over hire and offer wage increases. Guess where that cost got passed down to? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Federal_Open_Market_Committee_actions All that adds up and absolutely squeezes the lower and middle class who is borrowing money at higher rates. But the rate hikes have also helped bring the level of inflation way down. Which is why we haven’t had a rate hike since last July, and with the uptick in the unemployment rate today. Rate cuts became more likely in the near future. RE: Biden, Trump and the economy: Who did better on inflation, jobs, gasoline prices? - GMDino - 03-08-2024 (03-08-2024, 09:12 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Without being able to hear what Moore says after that quoted sentence, it's all just out of context, anyway. Just more shitty journalism.. You guys are a great team. Don't worry though, I'll do the heavy lifting for y'all. https://thehill.com/business/4518770-former-trump-adviser-no-question-us-has-strongest-economy/ Quote:Former Trump adviser: ‘No question’ US has strongest economy Whole segment. https://www.foxbusiness.com/video/6348484986112 Of course the jobs report aren't the "right kind of jobs" and only 35% of the jobs are beyond the Covid losses. Lots of caveats...it *IS* FOX of course but not a single word of what was posted was wrong or out of context. Even Moore has to acknowledge that the economy recovered faster and better than the rest of the world...with Biden at the helm. ![]() RE: Biden, Trump and the economy: Who did better on inflation, jobs, gasoline prices? - SunsetBengal - 03-08-2024 (03-08-2024, 09:34 PM)GMDino Wrote: You guys are a great team. Yeah, that part at the end where he mentions that Europe and Japan's economies aren't growing.. I knew that there was more to it. But, you had the "gotcha" moment going for a moment. RE: Biden, Trump and the economy: Who did better on inflation, jobs, gasoline prices? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 03-08-2024 (03-08-2024, 09:34 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: I have a hard time with that. Because I equate it to the typical American consumer who is terrible with finances and racks up credit card debt and makes impulse buys. Takes out $400,000 student loans for a $100,000 degree. Etc Not sure where you live, but two double cheeseburgers and two small fries is way more than $7 here in CA. A small fry here is $3.79 and a double cheeseburger is $4.89. https://www.ubereats.com/brand-city/orange-ca/mcdonalds (please note prices vary slightly by site) Quote:I can go to the grocery store and spend $200 and eat great healthy food and throw out a bunch of leftovers for two weeks straight. Again, not here in CA. Zero chance a family can live like that on $100 a week. Quote:Businesses listen when we talk with our wallets. I’m not a beer drinker but I thought about becoming one when the bud light cases were down to $5, what was that last year. Cool? Quote:Netflix is a good example. They just keep jacking up the price, and people just keep paying. So they just keep jacking. Take a look at how much money they are making. So now you're arguing my point? Quote:You know why the fed has held rates steady since last July? Because they are happy with how the fight against inflation is going. Fascinating. Are the Fed and the average consumer the same thing? Quote:Look at these rate hikes. During Biden’s term as we came out of a pandemic to go into the great resignation where a bunch of people wanted a better job and more money and that caused businesses to react and over hire and offer wage increases. Guess where that cost got passed down to? This is a bit on the gibberish side, but essentially you're arguing my position. I make a very nice living and I've noticed the price increases. I can only imagine what a family on a tight budget has gone through the past two plus years. But that takes empathy, which apparently is not a partisan value. RE: Biden, Trump and the economy: Who did better on inflation, jobs, gasoline prices? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 03-08-2024 (03-08-2024, 09:39 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Yeah, that part at the end where he mentions that Europe and Japan's economies aren't growing.. I knew that there was more to it. But, you had the "gotcha" moment going for a moment. Dude, you don't need a team. You're doing fine solo. ![]() RE: Biden, Trump and the economy: Who did better on inflation, jobs, gasoline prices? - GMDino - 03-08-2024 (03-08-2024, 09:39 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Yeah, that part at the end where he mentions that Europe and Japan's economies aren't growing.. I knew that there was more to it. But, you had the "gotcha" moment going for a moment. Zero gotcha...and you know it. I don't post for that...but you know that too. I share things that anyone can go check, complete with links so it's not "out of context". The US *IS* growing. Y'all worried about China's economy and we're doing so much better. Morre *DID* admit it. You could just say you were wrong about needing "context"...lol. RE: Biden, Trump and the economy: Who did better on inflation, jobs, gasoline prices? - SunsetBengal - 03-08-2024 (03-08-2024, 10:03 PM)GMDino Wrote: Zero gotcha...and you know it. I don't post for that...but you know that too. When the interest rates go down enough to allow people to afford buying homes and autos again, then I will be a believer. RE: Biden, Trump and the economy: Who did better on inflation, jobs, gasoline prices? - GMDino - 04-05-2024 This image has been floating about FB today. ![]() It says it was generated by Musk's AI on Twitter "Grok". And after the 3rd or 4th friend shared it I finally looked and the numbers didn't make sense. At least on of the totals had to be wrong and since I was working on stats anyway I threw them in to a sheet and well, they were off a bit. ![]() The 2nd thing I took note of is how the percentages are high but the dollar amount isn't. If this was your shopping list you'd spend an extra $20, I guess a week. But then I wondered why only 120z of coffee was $6.99? Maxwell House is $10.48 for a 42.5oz container. Around 24 cents an ounce. And that's just one example. Anyway, I'm certainly not denying inflation exists but examples like this make their way around freely with people blaming whoever is in office at the time and they can't even get their numbers right...or provide a source for the numbers short of AI. RE: Biden, Trump and the economy: Who did better on inflation, jobs, gasoline prices? - pally - 04-05-2024 (04-05-2024, 09:54 PM)GMDino Wrote: This image has been floating about FB today. Another thing to look out when discussing food cost is something out of the control of any one person and that is the impact of climate, disease, natural events have on them. For example, over the time period of this list a worldwide avian flu decimated domesticated fowl flocks. The impact on supply drove up poultry and egg price. The trees that produce the most widely distributed bananas were stricken with a blight. It obliterated plantations in Asia, Africa, and the Middle East. Drought n beef producing states have led ranchers to cull their herds to sizes that they can accommodate with less water. Drought followed by too much water also has hit California produce. Look for a big jump in Olive Ol prices. Spain, the world’s largest producer has been in a drought killing off their crop. |