(04-26-2024, 11:46 AM)Lucius Cincinnatus Wrote: This is an interesting approach to me. In a vacuum, looking at the roster + the pick, I think it makes sense. Get a guy with tons of potential who can sit behind a pretty good vet RT for as long as needed. A move to secure the future and I like him as a player. 


However, on the other hand, with how they are handling Tee Higgins and now Hendrickson, seemingly uninterested in trading them and "going for it" this year one last time with the band together, you'd think you would want to draft a player you know can contribute right away. And add in taking a tackle that needs development and our track record of developing lineman..isn't great obviously. 

Though, on the flip side, this gives us one less need next year when we have to replace Higgins and/or Hendrickson.

(04-26-2024, 12:05 PM)Clark W Griswold Wrote: And they already drafted Hendrickson’s replacement last year.  
I like that Mims had no false starts or holding penalties called on him (if I remember that earlier post correctly).
His success or failure will be on the coaching staff because they could not ask for a guy with better natural talent to work with.

(04-26-2024, 12:04 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: It amazes me how many draft experts we have in this forum. They know all. ZT and our FO don't know anything in their eyes.

i wanted Thomas or one of the CBs, but I respect the FO and Mims is a beast. Let's hope and pray he stays healthy and at the very least gives a great backup at OT in 2024.

But do not be surprised if he does start by the end of the year.

I am glad we built the trenches; teams win at the L.O.S. and we need to give Je time to throw the football.

(04-26-2024, 11:42 AM)CottonHill Wrote: You have no clue what you are talking about. Saban isn’t down talking the kid for no reason. He’s just saying what it is. And I doubt you know this, but he didn’t start the natty title game after the injury vs Alabama because they lost that game and it kept them out of the playoffs. He pulled himself and they lost.
Also Burrow had extensive injury to his wrist, he didn’t “bump” it. Mims apparently was fine after that game. He just didn’t feel like playing through it.

(04-26-2024, 12:21 PM)PDub80 Wrote: Dear Crybabies... WTF?!

- Mims is a very high ceiling prospect at a position that ALL Bengals fans know needs to be much better. The Bengals have starters on the line already. NONE of these linemen would have come in and just automatically started save for Fuaga at LG (not a high value position, IMO. He's the same size as Volson, who is still a young player. Fuaga does NOT project to OT in the NFL). Mims is a FABULOUS OT prospect. MASSIVE, ULTRA ATHLETIC, PERFECT PHYSICAL PROFILE.

Educate yourself on his injuries and you'll find they were nothing but of the nagging type. He hasn't had major surgeries and, like, can't walk or run yet. He doesn't have physical composition injury issues that give long term concerns. He had common nagging injuries.

Mims isn't switching positions or should be labeled a project. He has no physical traits that are less than ideal (like short arms). His wingspan is as wide as Giannis is tall. That's AWESOME for an OT.

What was Jonah's #1 asset coming out of college? HE STUDES FILM. He's "cerebral". WTF is that?! At a position where being a monster and kicking ass is the job the Bengals FINALLY drafted a guy who's a monster that kicks asses. Not a guy with a notebook.

^ BTW, all of the reports on Mims is that he is a very smart player who diagnoses what defenses are trying to do, like stunts, incredibly well. I was SICK of watching Jonah, the film guru, get fooled by stunts or go the wrong way on plays.

If Mims had played his entire college season he would have been the 5th pick of the draft and the #1 OT. Bengals went high ceiling instead if safe avg and we should all be THRILLED.

- I understand the want of a corner to start opposite CTB.... They have a 2nd (Turner) & a 1st round CB (Hill) already there. A CB would have been a great pick, too. But there is a cliff after Mims in terms of size and talent in this draft.

- I understand the desire for a high pick on a DT. LOTS of DTs there to take through this draft that are very good. I don't see big value in taking one at 18.

Let this entire draft unfold as a body of work, see who goes where and to whom, and then maybe make your hell fire & brimstone predictions.

The draft is an exercise in the aggregate. Not a one and done deal.

(04-26-2024, 12:36 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: And the Bengals may not be in a position to draft someone of Mims’ quality next year.

(04-26-2024, 12:42 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: ...This could be the end for Carman and/or Smith. If both go it frees up around $2.5 mil...

(04-26-2024, 12:39 PM)Millhouse Wrote: I'm still not the biggest fan of the pick, but that probably just comes from seeing who the Bengals have drafted at oline since Zeitler.

Oh well hope he bucks the trend for Burrow's and the rbs sake.

(04-26-2024, 12:42 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: I took Mims in our mock. Over Latham & Fuaga & Murphy. So I obviously think it was the right pick.

Fuaga has shorter arms and some view him as a guard. Latham had a lot of penalties (which declined towards the end). Both guys played more, have tougher/meaner demeanors, and are better run blockers.

But Mims is a good run blocker, has the best traits & tape of the lot, and is the best pass blocker and diagnostician (is that a word?).

Plus, Latham, Fuaga, & Murphy were gone.

Mims is a top 10 talent with great tape, great smarts, & great traits. The only knock is the limited starts. But he started the 2022 title game. Clean game. No sacks, no penalties.

My hope is he & the Browns stick around for a while. Though keeping Trent will be tough.

This could be the end for Carman and/or Smith. If both go it frees up around $2.5 mil.

(04-26-2024, 12:55 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Jonah never became an all pro, but he did start a ton of games for us at LT and then last year did a decent job switching to the right side. He also must not be that bad, he got a nice 2nd contract this year. 

The Bengals have drafted only 3 OL in the past 22 years with a top 20 pick. Mims became #4. 

Bengals First Round Draft Picks The Last 10 Years | StatMuse

Levi Jones -#10 in 2002
Andre Smith - #6 in 2009 
Jonah Williams - #11 in 2018

None were a bust.

Now, we have Mims at #18. Others drafted in round one was a couple at #21 and later.

Many look at Carman being a bust, but he was not a 1st round pick.

Time to trust Duke, ZT and our leaders to draft well.

(04-26-2024, 01:02 PM)Okeana Wrote: One of my favorite offensive line evaluators is Voch Lombardi who played center in college and has been scouting guys for a long time on Youtube.  He has an extremely high hit rate on guys he likes.  He's also friends with Duke Manyweather who runs the best independent offensive line training program in the nation.  Here is a quick video about Amarius

(04-26-2024, 12:39 PM)Millhouse Wrote: I'm still not the biggest fan of the pick, but that probably just comes from seeing who the Bengals have drafted at oline since Zeitler.

Oh well hope he bucks the trend for Burrow's and the rbs sake.

(04-26-2024, 01:06 PM)Millhouse Wrote: I said the linemen since Zeitler tho. This includes Cedric Ogbuehi, Jake Fisher, and Billy Price. And then all the project picks, one of which let a guy through that ended up shredding Burrows knee his rookie year.

If anyone wants to defend the Bengals track record on drafting olinemen in the last 10 years, knock yourselves out, I won't argue with ya. It isn't that deep with me anymore. 

But I don't get why so many people are up at arms against those that may not like the pick. At the end of the day I hope we all can at least agree that Mims pans out and becomes a perennial pro bowl/all pro player.

Ranking the fewest offensive snaps played in college, per PFF, by tackles taken in the first round in the last 10 drafts: pic.twitter.com/YzanPHRP3b

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(04-26-2024, 01:16 PM)Synric Wrote:

Ranking the fewest offensive snaps played in college, per PFF, by tackles taken in the first round in the last 10 drafts: pic.twitter.com/YzanPHRP3b

— Jay Morrison (@ByJayMorrison) April 26, 2024