(06-19-2024, 07:19 PM)pally Wrote: Tomorrow will be the summer solstice.

The debate is on the 27th

(06-19-2024, 07:56 PM)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: Guessing it will cement Joe Biden's walking papers.

Will Kamala go to California as Governor, or will a liberal judge step down from SCOTUS and Kamala replace them?

(06-19-2024, 08:02 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Now wait a minute. I heard this on WHIO today or yesterday. I can't remember who said it, but I heard it. I don't think she's done a well enough job as VP to be either.

(06-19-2024, 08:06 PM)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: I am not arguing that, but stating the two option I think they will dangle to get her to step aside.

(06-19-2024, 08:33 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: Trump will come in all hopped up on adderall ranting about we need to drug test Biden. Biden will be jacked up on red bull.

Trump will blame Biden for the murder of Laken Riley and Rachel Morin. Biden will say I did not murder Lincoln Riley and who is Rachel Morin?

Trump will say the country is a disaster and we are being invaded. Biden will say we are a nation of immigrants and countries are only allowing their best to enter our country illegally.

Biden will talk about raising taxes on the wealthy. Trump will talk about extending the 2018 tax cuts and no tax on tips to reduce taxes for the lower and middle class.

Biden will talk about the job creation and investments in infrastructure. Trump will remind Biden he was given 50 billion dollars for EV stations and has 8 new EV stations. Trump will remind Biden he was given 42.5 billion in the infrastructure bill to get high speed internet into low-income communities 3 years ago, to date not one new high speed internet service in any low-income community.

Biden will talk about the Statue of Liberty and how it represents who we are as a country made of immigrants. Trump will talk about immigrants like his wife Melania who entered the country the correct way and earned her citizenship. Trump will remind Biden we are nation of legal immigrants.

(06-20-2024, 10:52 AM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: Write in: Ends in a push up contest.

Mandelbaum! Mandelbaum! Mandelbaum!

(06-20-2024, 12:50 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: HAHA - I doubt either could get to 2.

(06-20-2024, 04:02 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Trump would manage 3 half-pushups, from his knees...and say he did "300 perfect pushups. Perfect form.  Maybe the greatest pushups anyone has ever seen!"

(06-20-2024, 10:27 AM)CKwi88 Wrote: America loses.

(06-21-2024, 05:40 PM)samhain Wrote: If I were advising Trump (as if he really lets anyone do that), I would never have agreed to this debate.  It's fraught for Biden, no doubt, but I think it's worse for Trump.

Without a public debate, the narrative on Biden being compromised cognitively is about as established as it could be.  All Trump can do is either seem more alert, as expected, or seem similar if not worse that Biden.  He also always runs the risk of making an extremely damaging (to himself) off the cuff statement that Biden capitalizes on.  

Also, as implied earlier, it's gravy for the Dems in general.  If Trump comes out and absolutely annihilates Biden, then it becomes very plausible for the party to find a new candidate before or at the convention.  

The best thing Trump could do is show up with restrained demeanor and stick to issues over personal attacks and grievances.  That's about as likely as RFK Jr (maybe even senior) becoming the Dem nominee.  

This is sink or swim for Joe.  He gets a puncher's chance.  If he can't take advantage, then the party might start feeling the need to find a more formidable candidate.  My guess is that they're already looking.

(06-21-2024, 10:58 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: I agree with all this. This is possibly where Trump's ego puts him into the same spot that lost him in the last debate and election. Biden is drowning, all Trump can do by talking is throw him a lifeline. I could hope that Trump learned from his mistakes and comes out like a gentleman and has an awesome debate, but that's like the elephant hanging off a cliff by a dandelion thing.