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College suspends tenured professor Christians & Muslims “worship the same God" - GMDino - 12-16-2015 http://www.salon.com/2015/12/16/evangelical_college_suspends_tenured_professor_for_saying_christians_and_muslims_worship_the_same_god_echoing_pope/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflow Quote:Evangelical college suspends tenured professor for saying Christians & Muslims “worship the same God,” echoing pope RE: College suspends tenured professor Christians & Muslims “worship the same God&... - bfine32 - 12-16-2015 It is true that Christians and Muslims worship the same god, as do the Jews. The huge difference is Christ. Muslims and Jews believe we are bound by the old laws; while Christians believe we are saved from condemnation from the old laws and seek Salvation through Jesus Christ. Here is Wheaton’s (a private College) Mission Statement: http://wheaton.edu/About-Wheaton/Mission Quote:Our Mission Quote: Now ask yourself what you would do with an employee that advocated a belief that goes directly against your organization’s Mission Statement and then blasted you on Social media when you informed her that the acts are contrary to your organization’s Mission. RE: College suspends tenured professor Christians & Muslims “worship the same God&... - fredtoast - 12-16-2015 (12-16-2015, 01:30 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Now ask yourself what you would do with an employee that advocated a belief that goes directly against your organization’s Mission Statement How does saying that Christians and Muslims worship the same god violate their mission statement? Didn't Jesus preach that we should love the Muslims? Wheaton College is the same bunch of hypocrites who cut off insurance to the students because they claimed it violated their morals, but kept the same "evil" insurance for all the faculty and staff. RE: College suspends tenured professor Christians & Muslims “worship the same God&... - bfine32 - 12-16-2015 (12-16-2015, 02:02 PM)fredtoast Wrote: How does saying that Christians and Muslims worship the same god violate their mission statement? It does not and if that is all she was suspended for; then there is an issue. Making inference from the Article she doubled down by wearing Muslim garb and then complained publically (facebook no less) that her organization was pushing back. You cannot have a Mission statement that says through Christ and then having one of your employees advocating a religion that denies Christ. I can respect a conscientious objecter and say we both love our country; he just cannot do it by following the rules of my organization and I cannot advocate the practice. RE: College suspends tenured professor Christians & Muslims “worship the same God&... - GMDino - 12-16-2015 (12-16-2015, 01:30 PM)bfine32 Wrote: It is true that Christians and Muslims worship the same god, as do the Jews. The huge difference is Christ. Muslims and Jews believe we are bound by the old laws; while Christians believe we are saved from condemnation from the old laws and seek Salvation through Jesus Christ. But she did not do that. She wore the garb and explained why. She said they worship the same god and made no reference to Jesus. But it also seems like the leaders of said school are not very tolerant of much outside of their strict belief. RE: College suspends tenured professor Christians & Muslims “worship the same God" - Nately120 - 12-18-2015 Hmm, religious organization at odds with religious person because religious person points out religious people being at odds with other religious people. RE: College suspends tenured professor Christians & Muslims “worship the same God" - Belsnickel - 12-18-2015 This should come as no surprise. This school is also involved in the ACA lawsuits regarding birth control coverage and decided to terminate their insurance to students as a result. Wheaton has become known for controversy amongst higher education these days. RE: College suspends tenured professor Christians & Muslims “worship the same God&... - Nebuchadnezzar - 12-18-2015 Christians believe that Jesus Christ is God, the Nation of Islam and the Jewish faith do not. To say Christians, the Nation of Islam and the Jewish faith worship the same god goes against the Christian faith. RE: College suspends tenured professor Christians & Muslims “worship the same God&... - Nebuchadnezzar - 12-18-2015 While Arthur W. Pink is a Calvinist, this is still a good book if you would like to try and understand the Godhead. http://www.pbministries.org/books/pink/Gleanings_Godhead/godhead.htm RE: College suspends tenured professor Christians & Muslims “worship the same God&... - Belsnickel - 12-18-2015 (12-18-2015, 10:37 PM)Nebuchadnezzar Wrote: Christians believe that Jesus Christ is God, the Nation of Islam and the Jewish faith do not. To say Christians, the Nation of Islam and the Jewish faith worship the same god goes against the Christian faith. I don't follow that logic, since the concept of Jesus being the Messiah is predicated on the OT and the worship of the God of Abraham. If Christians do not worship the same God then the OT would not be applicable and in order to understand the NT is must be read in conjunction/context with the OT. RE: College suspends tenured professor Christians & Muslims “worship the same God&... - Nebuchadnezzar - 12-18-2015 (12-18-2015, 11:00 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I don't follow that logic, since the concept of Jesus being the Messiah is predicated on the OT and the worship of the God of Abraham. If Christians do not worship the same God then the OT would not be applicable and in order to understand the NT is must be read in conjunction/context with the OT. Is Jesus Christ God? A Christian will say yes, Jesus Christ is God. The Jew and Muslim will call Jesus Christ a Prophet or teacher or Rabbi...not God. Therefore, we do not worship the same god. Christians worship God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit or Ghost, one God in three persons. I can't think of an analogy to help me out. I posted a great book on the Godhead if any want to read and try to understand it. It's very long though and detailed, it will make your eyes bleed, lol. RE: College suspends tenured professor Christians & Muslims “worship the same God" - Belsnickel - 12-19-2015 (12-18-2015, 11:21 PM)Nebuchadnezzar Wrote: Is Jesus Christ God? If it is not the same God of Abraham, though, then there is a loss of legitimacy to the idea of Jesus being God made flesh. It's a paradox, really. The theology I grew up with and that which my current denomination holds, is that we worship the God of Abraham, which is the same God of the Jews and Muslims. To me, without acknowledging that we, as Christians, worship the God of Abraham as well, we cannot embrace the OT, which is what is needed to back the claim of Jesus as our Lord. RE: College suspends tenured professor Christians & Muslims “worship the same God&... - Rotobeast - 12-19-2015 I think we all worship the same God. The Jews and Muslims just do not believe that God extended himself from Heaven to the earth, in the form of Christ. RE: College suspends tenured professor Christians & Muslims “worship the same God" - Belsnickel - 12-19-2015 (12-19-2015, 08:28 AM)Rotobeast Wrote: I think we all worship the same God. FTFY. RE: College suspends tenured professor Christians & Muslims “worship the same God&... - Rotobeast - 12-19-2015 (12-19-2015, 08:40 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: FTFY. Sorry, it's early and my goofy phone is being difficult. I had to edit another post 4 times. ![]() RE: College suspends tenured professor Christians & Muslims “worship the same God&... - BmorePat87 - 12-19-2015 (12-19-2015, 08:28 AM)Rotobeast Wrote: I think we all worship the same God. This perfectly sums it up. If we agree that the God of Abraham was first the God of the Jews, then the argument that they do not believe in the same God as Christians because Christians believe Jesus was God in the flesh (the Son) would suggest that the Christians invented a new God and no longer believe in the God of Abraham. That sounds stupid, right? RE: College suspends tenured professor Christians & Muslims “worship the same God&... - bfine32 - 12-19-2015 (12-18-2015, 10:37 PM)Nebuchadnezzar Wrote: Christians believe that Jesus Christ is God, the Nation of Islam and the Jewish faith do not. To say Christians, the Nation of Islam and the Jewish faith worship the same god goes against the Christian faith. It does not go against my Christian faith. What does go against my Christian faith is not following the belief that the only was to the Father is through the Son. I think people have a hard time grasping this concept because they view God as a human being. RE: College suspends tenured professor Christians & Muslims “worship the same God&... - Nebuchadnezzar - 12-19-2015 (12-19-2015, 01:50 PM)bfine32 Wrote: It does not go against my Christian faith. What does go against my Christian faith is not following the belief that the only was to the Father is through the Son. I think people have a hard time grasping this concept because they view God as a human being. You are talking about the "Path". You all make sense and I may be confusing "Path" with "God" so I will talk with my pastor tomorrow and get straightened out. RE: College suspends tenured professor Christians & Muslims “worship the same God" - Belsnickel - 12-19-2015 (12-19-2015, 02:29 PM)Nebuchadnezzar Wrote: You are talking about the "Path". Different denominations follow different theologies on this. What makes sense to you is what makes sense to you, also. Your relationship with God and how you understand him is your relationship to interpret. |