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Why Did the Democratic and Republican Parties Switch Platforms? - GMDino - 04-19-2016 Saw a post today on Facebook about how the GOP is "really" the party of racial reform because the late 1800's they banned the KKK and did a lot of good things. The list included how if it wasn't for the Republicans the 1964 Civil Rights Act never would have passed. Brought me back to this: http://www.livescience.com/34241-democratic-republican-parties-switch-platforms.html Quote:During the 1860s, Republicans, who dominated northern states, orchestrated an ambitious expansion of federal power, helping to fund the transcontinental railroad, the state university system and the settlement of the West by homesteaders, and instating a national currency and protective tariff. Democrats, who dominated the South, opposed these measures. After the Civil War, Republicans passed laws that granted protections for African Americans and advanced social justice; again, Democrats largely opposed these expansions of power. RE: Why Did the Democratic and Republican Parties Switch Platforms? - Benton - 04-19-2016 Interesting topic (although you're going to get a few people who say the GOP is still the party of the civil rights movement). I think it's a natural shift to the majority that happens over time. And it's happening now, has been since the 80s. There's always going to be a minority of folks who say "I've got mine, I need laws to make sure I can keep it." And there's always going to be a majority saying "I don't have enough, I need laws to help me get more." The "mine" and "enough" are whatever — money, religion, civil rights, boobs, property, jobs. So you're always going to have a group that has things the way they want it, and a group that wants things they don't have. The GOP — riding with changes in the base by Nixon — did a lot of changing in the 80s. None of it was small government, but a lot of it was about protecting what some people had and were losing because of slow economic growth. Bush II furthered that. Bigger government, more spending, more intrusion all in the name of getting rid of drugs, or immigration reform, or the war on terror. But I think you're coming to the end of that time. The GOP swelled because there were enough people who wanted something (mostly religious based laws and tax breaks). That's caused a lot of other people to be on the other end, not having what it is they're looking for (a lack of government involvement in their daily life and jobs). GOP made messes like Kansas and Louisiana are pushing people to another party because they need jobs (or money, or civil rights or whatever. RE: Why Did the Democratic and Republican Parties Switch Platforms? - fredtoast - 04-19-2016 The industrial revolution changed everything. There have always been rich powerful people in the United States, but their power and influence was multiplied by the rise of large corporations and businesses in the second half of the 19th century. But the racial element of the switch in platforms is much more complicated. It was based on regional influence more than policy. For example, you often hear how the Republicans were the ones that supported the Civil rights Act, but outside of the South a higher percentage of Democrats supported it than republicans. That was 100 years after the Civil War and politics in the south were still controlled by that conflict and the reconstruction that followed. Then Barry Goldwater invented the use of the victim card by the white majority and things flipped quickly. RE: Why Did the Democratic and Republican Parties Switch Platforms? - bfine32 - 04-19-2016 I've heard a lot about this platform change; however, I have never seen an old-timer tell me they have switched from Democrate to Republican. RE: Why Did the Democratic and Republican Parties Switch Platforms? - fredtoast - 04-19-2016 (04-19-2016, 12:49 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I've heard a lot about this platform change; however, I have never seen an old-timer tell me they have switched from Democrate to Republican. How many people do you know that were voting in the early 1900's? RE: Why Did the Democratic and Republican Parties Switch Platforms? - bfine32 - 04-19-2016 (04-19-2016, 01:02 PM)fredtoast Wrote: How many people do you know that were voting in the early 1900's? My family has been in local politics as far back as we know and they have always been Democratic. WTS, I was unaware the the Civil Rights Movement occured in the early 1900s RE: Why Did the Democratic and Republican Parties Switch Platforms? - SteelCitySouth - 04-19-2016 (04-19-2016, 01:02 PM)fredtoast Wrote: How many people do you know that were voting in the early 1900's? 0.0 RE: Why Did the Democratic and Republican Parties Switch Platforms? - bfine32 - 04-19-2016 (04-19-2016, 01:07 PM)SteelCitySouth Wrote: 0.0 Well some families don't have a political background I guess. My family has always active for generations. RE: Why Did the Democratic and Republican Parties Switch Platforms? - fredtoast - 04-19-2016 (04-19-2016, 01:09 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Well some families don't have a political background I guess. My family has always active for generations. So what you really meant was that you don't know anyone who came from a Republican family who voted Democrat? I know plenty of people like that. RE: Why Did the Democratic and Republican Parties Switch Platforms? - bfine32 - 04-19-2016 (04-19-2016, 01:14 PM)fredtoast Wrote: So what you really meant was that you don't know anyone who came from a Republican family who voted Democrat? Nope, it's pretty much been down the lines as to those who are active; it seems those that are casual are the ones that go back and forth (not that that is a bad thing or present in this forum). Hey but at least Kim Davis was elected as a Democrate; not sure it was the early 1900s though. RE: Why Did the Democratic and Republican Parties Switch Platforms? - Nately120 - 04-19-2016 (04-19-2016, 12:49 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I've heard a lot about this platform change; however, I have never seen an old-timer tell me they have switched from Democrate to Republican. I believe Strom Thurmond was around long enough to have to switch. RE: Why Did the Democratic and Republican Parties Switch Platforms? - jmccracky - 04-19-2016 All of my racist old ass uncles switched from Democrat to Republican when Obama ran. Friend me on Facebook, and you will see, lol. My mom, who is still a Democrat and very religious (Christian) fights those bafoons every day. My wife and I just laugh and hit "like". Lol RE: Why Did the Democratic and Republican Parties Switch Platforms? - jmccracky - 04-19-2016 (04-19-2016, 01:17 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Nope, it's pretty much been down the lines as to those who are active; it seems those that are casual are the ones that go back and forth (not that that is a bad thing or present in this forum). Wait....you mean there are idiots who vote Democrat?!?! Wow, didn't know that Republicans like everyone who votes Republican. RE: Why Did the Democratic and Republican Parties Switch Platforms? - jmccracky - 04-19-2016 (04-19-2016, 08:44 PM)CharvelPlaya Wrote: Wait....you mean there are idiots who vote Democrat?!?! Wow, didn't know that Republicans like everyone who votes Republican. Ahhhhh...I read your post wrong, bfine. My apologies man. I need to slow down, lol. |