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Christian group vandalizes ancient Mexican archaeological site - GMDino - 06-28-2016 http://deadstate.org/christian-group-vandalizes-ancient-mexican-archeological-site-claiming-its-linked-to-devil-worship/ Quote:Members of a Jehovah’s Witness sect have been accused of vandalizing a 7,000-year-old archeological site in eastern Mexico – all in an effort to stamp out “Devil worship.” http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/jehovahs-witnesses-accused-of-vandalizing-7000-year-old-pyramid-out-of-fears-of-devil-worship/ RE: Christian group vandalizes ancient Mexican archaeological site - BigPapaKain - 06-29-2016 Ugh. RE: Christian group vandalizes ancient Mexican archaeological site - Wyche'sWarrior - 06-29-2016 Hhhmmmmm.....not sure I would call Jehovah's Witness Christian, as they do not believe in the Holy Trinity.....the basis of the Bible and the religion. RE: Christian group vandalizes ancient Mexican archaeological site - GMDino - 06-29-2016 (06-29-2016, 10:22 AM)Wyche Wrote: Hhhmmmmm.....not sure I would call Jehovah's Witness Christian, as they do not believe in the Holy Trinity.....the basis of the Bible and the religion. That is what they call themselves. https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/are-jehovahs-witnesses-christians/ Quote:Are Jehovah’s Witnesses Christians? RE: Christian group vandalizes ancient Mexican archaeological site - Wyche'sWarrior - 06-29-2016 (06-29-2016, 10:30 AM)GMDino Wrote: That is what they call themselves. So......doesn't mean they're right. Some even view them as a cult......surely this isn't new knowledge to you. RE: Christian group vandalizes ancient Mexican archaeological site - GMDino - 06-29-2016 (06-29-2016, 11:08 AM)Wyche Wrote: So......doesn't mean they're right. Some even view them as a cult......surely this isn't new knowledge to you. Not at all. All religions are cults. We just accept some and not others as "real" religions. But if they say they are Christian and give their reasons as such shouldn't we count that? RE: Christian group vandalizes ancient Mexican archaeological site - BmorePat87 - 06-29-2016 Whether or not a minority denomination of a religion is part of that religion depends on how a majority associated with that religion view them. Some don't consider Catholics to be Christians, which is silly. I think it's safe to say that no one group speaks for all of a religion, but it's also not up to us to declare them not followers because they disagree with some components that others agree with, especially if they're not trying to bastardize it. RE: Christian group vandalizes ancient Mexican archaeological site - Millhouse - 06-29-2016 (06-29-2016, 10:22 AM)Wyche Wrote: Hhhmmmmm.....not sure I would call Jehovah's Witness Christian, as they do not believe in the Holy Trinity.....the basis of the Bible and the religion. I always thought the basis of Christianity was to treat others as oneself would want to be treated, and love God with all your heart. And anyone that breaks either of those 'commandments' isn't really a true Christian, which would mean there are and were a butt-load of Christians out there that really aren't. I dont know, just my take from reading what JC himself supposedly said. On topic, they should go to go a Mexican jail for these crimes. Granted they aren't nearly as bad as what ISIS is doing in Syria & Iraq in destroying ancient historical remains, but they are following the same sort of dumb*** mindset they are, which is disturbing to say the least. RE: Christian group vandalizes ancient Mexican archaeological site - Wyche'sWarrior - 06-29-2016 (06-29-2016, 11:10 AM)GMDino Wrote: Not at all. Well, the Mormons self identify as Christians too, but I don't recall any sections of the Bible endorsing polygamy, or acknowledging John Smith, so there's that. ![]() RE: Christian group vandalizes ancient Mexican archaeological site - GMDino - 06-29-2016 (06-29-2016, 11:48 AM)Wyche Wrote: Well, the Mormons self identify as Christians too, but I don't recall any sections of the Bible endorsing polygamy, or acknowledging John Smith, so there's that. http://creation.com/does-the-bible-clearly-teach-monogamy I guess "endorsed" is the wrong word. Allowed? Permitted in certain circumstances? That link is showing why it is wrong and God really wanted people to be monogamous...but it also has the references to the polygamy in the bible and how it went unpunished for the most part. However, again, I didn't call them Christian. They called themselves that. RE: Christian group vandalizes ancient Mexican archaeological site - Wyche'sWarrior - 06-29-2016 (06-29-2016, 11:13 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Whether or not a minority denomination of a religion is part of that religion depends on how a majority associated with that religion view them. I can agree with that, but most sects/denominations acknowledge the Holy Trinity as the basis of everything.....so, maybe it's just my own bias, but I have a hard time viewing any group that doesn't acknowledge that as truly Christian. That said, I was raised in a Christian household, and in no way shape, form, or fashion would I ever consider something like this. Jesus taught us compassion, empathy, and peace. It would be our job to witness to the sinners, not trash their property and bludgeon them into following. RE: Christian group vandalizes ancient Mexican archaeological site - BmorePat87 - 06-29-2016 (06-29-2016, 11:53 AM)Wyche Wrote: I can agree with that, but most sects/denominations acknowledge the Holy Trinity as the basis of everything.....so, maybe it's just my own bias, but I have a hard time viewing any group that doesn't acknowledge that as truly Christian. Imagine how the Catholics felt during the Protestant reformation and people were disagreeing with things left and right. RE: Christian group vandalizes ancient Mexican archaeological site - GMDino - 06-29-2016 (06-29-2016, 11:53 AM)Wyche Wrote: I can agree with that, but most sects/denominations acknowledge the Holy Trinity as the basis of everything.....so, maybe it's just my own bias, but I have a hard time viewing any group that doesn't acknowledge that as truly Christian. That said, I was raised in a Christian household, and in no way shape, form, or fashion would I ever consider something like this. Jesus taught us compassion, empathy, and peace. It would be our job to witness to the sinners, not trash their property and bludgeon them into following. I was raised Catholic. I don't remember being told that the trinity was the basis for being a Christian. But in all honesty when you are in religion class every day. five days a week, for 12 years...plus mass twice a week...things tend to get fuzzy in the old memory department. RE: Christian group vandalizes ancient Mexican archaeological site - Wyche'sWarrior - 06-29-2016 (06-29-2016, 11:30 AM)Millhouse Wrote: I always thought the basis of Christianity was to treat others as oneself would want to be treated, and love God with all your heart. And anyone that breaks either of those 'commandments' isn't really a true Christian, which would mean there are and were a butt-load of Christians out there that really aren't. I dont know, just my take from reading what JC himself supposedly said. Yes, I agree with your last statement, as to the former.....you are correct, but the Holy Trinity means "the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit". There sure are a lot of hypocrites out there, and sinners that ask for forgiveness, such as myself. I cuss a little too much, drink a few too many beers on occasion, but I try my hardest to do unto others as I want them to do unto me. RE: Christian group vandalizes ancient Mexican archaeological site - Wyche'sWarrior - 06-29-2016 (06-29-2016, 11:56 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Imagine how the Catholics felt during the Protestant reformation and people were disagreeing with things left and right. True that. RE: Christian group vandalizes ancient Mexican archaeological site - michaelsean - 06-29-2016 (06-29-2016, 11:56 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Imagine how the Catholics felt during the Protestant reformation and people were disagreeing with things left and right. Yeah but now that they are in hell, who gets the last laugh? ![]() RE: Christian group vandalizes ancient Mexican archaeological site - bfine32 - 06-29-2016 (06-29-2016, 10:22 AM)WychesWarrior Wrote: Hhhmmmmm.....not sure I would call Jehovah's Witness Christian, as they do not believe in the Holy Trinity.....the basis of the Bible and the religion. I don't think the OP calling JWs Christians is much of an issue. I will saying that stating they did it when the article states they have only been accused of doing it, may be a little more misleading. I'm not even sure if the article points to who accused them. Reminds me of a time when Lucie accidently said wins instead of participates in a title. Folks lost their minds; here, not so much. RE: Christian group vandalizes ancient Mexican archaeological site - bfine32 - 06-29-2016 (06-29-2016, 11:53 AM)WychesWarrior Wrote: I can agree with that, but most sects/denominations acknowledge the Holy Trinity as the basis of everything.....so, maybe it's just my own bias, but I have a hard time viewing any group that doesn't acknowledge that as truly Christian. That said, I was raised in a Christian household, and in no way shape, form, or fashion would I ever consider something like this. Jesus taught us compassion, empathy, and peace. It would be our job to witness to the sinners, not trash their property and bludgeon them into following. It's really just a title and if someone wants to consider themselves Christians then that's their choice. I do agree that the Trinity is the keystone belief in Christianity and disagree with those that do not believe in it as labeling themselves as such. For instance Jews believe in Jesus. RE: Christian group vandalizes ancient Mexican archaeological site - GMDino - 06-29-2016 (06-29-2016, 12:22 PM)bfine32 Wrote: It's really just a title and if someone wants to consider themselves Christians then that's their choice. I do agree that the Trinity is the keystone belief in Christianity and disagree with those that do not believe in it as labeling themselves as such. For instance Jews believe in Jesus. But they only believe he was a profit. Not the Messiah. RE: Christian group vandalizes ancient Mexican archaeological site - Nately120 - 06-29-2016 (06-29-2016, 12:25 PM)GMDino Wrote: But they only believe he was a profit. Not the Messiah. Profit you say!? $$$$$$$$$$$ |