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Phyllis Schlafly dead at 92 - GMDino - 09-06-2016 http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/294536-phyllis-schlafly-dead-at-92 Quote:Longtime conservative activist and Eagle Forum founder Phyllis Schlafly died Monday. She was 92. She loved the American way so much she fought against equal righs and supported people like Reagan who headed the destruction of the middle class. What an icon for the right. RE: Phyllis Schlafly dead at 92 - fredtoast - 09-06-2016 Not very interested in this lady. Just want to see if anyone claims we should not speak badly about any person the day they die. RE: Phyllis Schlafly dead at 92 - PhilHos - 09-06-2016 (09-06-2016, 01:13 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Not very interested in this lady. As long as said person is not black, liberal, or anti-Trump then go right ahead, apparently. For the record, I've never even heard of this broad. RE: Phyllis Schlafly dead at 92 - Rotobeast - 09-06-2016 Why do people feel the need to belittle the recently deceased ? I know you are condemning the actions and not the person, but it's just something I always seem to have trouble with. Honestly, I didn't even know who this lady was. There are people I've disliked who have passed, but I don't think I've ever felt compelled to dance on their grave. I suppose that maybe I'm different in thinking there is good in everyone, somewhere and they very well could have done enough good in their life to atone for the bad. Sent from my SM-S820L using Tapatalk RE: Phyllis Schlafly dead at 92 - xxlt - 09-06-2016 (09-06-2016, 01:27 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: Why do people feel the need to belittle the recently deceased ? I am honestly surprised you don't know who she was. You must be much younger than I thought or only recently tuned into politics. She was sort of a pioneer voice screaming into the void before we could all do it on the internet, LOL. She was sort of Hillary before Hillary - an outspoken woman when women were still supposed to be barefoot and pregnant, and people either loved her or hated her - although there was never a massive smear campaign to discredit her. I think she was also always just an "activist," writer and speaker, never actually working on policy or holding an office. But she was for decades a well known conservative pundit - again, before 24-7 talking heads and pundits galore. As the spotlight fragmented to take in all those other chuckleheads on both sides of the aisle she got less media attention but still was active. The OP pointing out her death is not necessarily dancing. I mean, she was a public figure and her death is news. I think the OP probably felt the same about her yesterday as today, and stating his (accurate, btw) assessment of her career is just giving an opinion of her public life. I didn't hear clapping or high fives in the subtext. Thinking someone who died was a good person doesn't necessarily count as mourning, and thinking they were a jerk isn't necessarily desecrating their soon to be dug grave. Or so it seems to me. RE: Phyllis Schlafly dead at 92 - michaelsean - 09-06-2016 (09-06-2016, 07:09 AM)GMDino Wrote: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/294536-phyllis-schlafly-dead-at-92 So you are pointing out her support of Reagan as a reason the right shouldn't support her? RE: Phyllis Schlafly dead at 92 - bfine32 - 09-06-2016 (09-06-2016, 02:59 PM)xxlt Wrote: OP pointing out her death is not necessarily dancing. I mean, she was a public figure and her death is news. I think the OP probably felt the same about her yesterday as today, and stating his (accurate, btw) assessment of her career is just giving an opinion of her public life. I didn't hear clapping or high fives in the subtext. Thinking someone who died was a good person doesn't necessarily count as mourning, and thinking they were a jerk isn't necessarily desecrating their soon to be dug grave. Or so it seems to me. Oh I suppose some folks are naive enough to believe the OP meant no disrespect with his commentary. RE: Phyllis Schlafly dead at 92 - Rotobeast - 09-06-2016 (09-06-2016, 02:59 PM)xxlt Wrote: I am honestly surprised you don't know who she was. You must be much younger than I thought or only recently tuned into politics. She was sort of a pioneer voice screaming into the void before we could all do it on the internet, LOL. The majority of my political knowledge has come from you turkeys. ![]() I'm 47, but only watched cable news (CNN/Fox), before jumping into the P&R forums. I was politically disenfranchised, until I had a daughter, and felt the need to ensure she'd be able to grow up in a decent world. I'm only one person, but I've found that I perform well at informing others and bring them back from being disenfranchised. I've been learning more about my local government and getting to know many that hold office here. Who knows.... I may run for something. I'll let everyone know that you all should be the ones held accountable. ![]() Also... I wasn't trying to come down heavy on Dino. He's a good guy and I'm sick as hell today, so I'm sure I'm not coming across as I intend. It took me about 35 minutes to write this response. Sent from my SM-S820L using Tapatalk RE: Phyllis Schlafly dead at 92 - SunsetBengal - 09-06-2016 (09-06-2016, 07:09 AM)GMDino Wrote: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/294536-phyllis-schlafly-dead-at-92 You sure about all that? I mean, I was a kid in the Reagan era. My Dad's salary increased at the greatest rate in his working history during those years. We somehow moved up from upper lower class to lower middle class in about a few short years. Also, what's wrong with a liberated woman choosing to stay home and raise the family? I know many families where both work, seemingly just for the sake of saying both work. They might actually save some money if one stayed home, intelligently managed the family, while the other focused on increasing their earnings. RE: Phyllis Schlafly dead at 92 - GMDino - 09-06-2016 I often post a #toosoon when someone famous dies. Because someone famous dying gets tons of press when all they did was be famous. In this case I made a commentary on her belief system and the people who loved her. Not her. For anyone to claim there are conservative and that they did not know who she was is amazing to me. RE: Phyllis Schlafly dead at 92 - xxlt - 09-06-2016 (09-06-2016, 09:13 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: The majority of my political knowledge has come from you turkeys. Reminds me of the Clinton line from his DNC speech - 'when you have more yesterdays than tomorrows on your timeline you start to worry about what you are leaving for the future generations...' Of course, when you have a child it kicks in even more. Glad you are enfranchised again. Who knows comrade, maybe we will see you soon at a regional gathering of enfranchised subversives. RE: Phyllis Schlafly dead at 92 - xxlt - 09-06-2016 (09-06-2016, 09:53 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: You sure about all that? I mean, I was a kid in the Reagan era. My Dad's salary increased at the greatest rate in his working history during those years. We somehow moved up from upper lower class to lower middle class in about a few short years. Sincerely happy for your family's successes during your childhood. That being said, several people have posted reams of data on the old board and readily available at your fingertips showing for the majority of Americans wages have been stagnant for the past 35 years and in some cases even declined. At the same time, a small percentage of Americans - a fraction of one percent, have experienced staggering economic gains. That isn't a matter of ideology. It is a matter of fact - specifically mathematical fact. Regarding Schlaffly if she were alive and you called her liberated to her face she would have verbally assaulted you. She was neither a feminist, nor liberated, and asked her husband's permission before running for office 3x and losing all three times. The sad truth is in most households where one parent stays home it is because they can't make enough from the second earners wages to pay for childcare. So, it does technically save money but hardly increases the family's standard of living. The second the kids are in school the second wage earner returns to a job or jobs and the family still struggles. And it isn't because they live beyond their means - it is because wages in this country have flat lined for decades. Again, not a matter of ideology, it is a matter of math. You may believe if we further cut capital gains taxes and the tax rates for the wealthiest earners even further that the middle class will suddenly explode, or you may believe it is doing just fine. But, those ideas haven't worked for 35 years and the middle class is not doing just fine. Feel free to tell me I am wrong, and I will happily agree when you show math that proves it. RE: Phyllis Schlafly dead at 92 - fredtoast - 09-07-2016 (09-06-2016, 09:53 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I know many families where both work, seemingly just for the sake of saying both work. I don't know of anyone who works "just for the sake of saying not work". That makes no sense at all. RE: Phyllis Schlafly dead at 92 - GMDino - 09-07-2016 (09-07-2016, 09:42 AM)fredtoast Wrote: I don't know of anyone who works "just for the sake of saying not work". That makes no sense at all. My idiot sister in law (for other reasons than this) works when she has zero reason too...except she like to spend more than her husband makes. They could live quite well, but she is addicted to mail order crap. Then she complains about her job and how much she hates its. |