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Fesitvus! But only for Trump... - GMDino - 11-22-2016 http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/11/21/502951630/trump-airs-greivances-fields-questions-in-meeting-with-top-tv-news-figures?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=2049 Quote:Trump Airs Grievances, Fields Questions In Meeting With Top TV News Figures Four years of him taking everything negative personally. Should be a lot of fun. RE: Fesitvus! But only for Trump... - Benton - 11-22-2016 he says something and an hour later says he didn't say it. I'm honestly not sure what he expects out of the press outside of asking them to be as flexible as his social media accounts. RE: Fesitvus! But only for Trump... - GMDino - 11-22-2016 (11-22-2016, 10:24 AM)Benton Wrote: he says something and an hour later says he didn't say it. I'm honestly not sure what he expects out of the press outside of asking them to be as flexible as his social media accounts. Well for one he wants more flattering pictures. It's almost like he had no idea what he was getting himself into. ![]() RE: Fesitvus! But only for Trump... - Mike M (the other one) - 11-22-2016 Good for him. If they lie again, cut them from the box period and watch their stock tumble. We have enough problems in the US with out the media blowing sensationalizing everything. The whole current racial divide can be traced back to the media's handling of Trayvon Martin. RE: Fesitvus! But only for Trump... - BmorePat87 - 11-22-2016 (11-22-2016, 12:20 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Good for him. If they lie again, cut them from the box period and watch their stock tumble. What should they do when he lies again? Just ignore it? Quote:The whole current racial divide can be traced back to the media's handling of Trayvon Martin. Yea, our country's current race relation problems can be traced back to the media covering a black kid being killed by a fat coward in 2012... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Damn media always trying to make things about race... They're probably the reason why we had Neo-Nazis holding a conference in DC this past week. RE: Fesitvus! But only for Trump... - bfine32 - 11-22-2016 Seems someone in the meeting does not understand what off the record means. RE: Fesitvus! But only for Trump... - GMDino - 11-22-2016 (11-22-2016, 12:48 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Seems someone in the meeting does not understand what off the record means. See I don't understand why the President (or any elected official) would want an off the record meeting. Then it's "he said / he said". have it recorded and then there is no doubt about conversation. RE: Fesitvus! But only for Trump... - bfine32 - 11-22-2016 (11-22-2016, 12:56 PM)GMDino Wrote: See I don't understand why the President (or any elected official) would want an off the record meeting. Then it's "he said / he said". have it recorded and then there is no doubt about conversation. I could think of a great many reasons an Elected Official would hold an off the record meeting and it probably happens much more than we know because they are off the record. I will admit if you want an off the record meeting: a room full of journalists may not be a great audiance RE: Fesitvus! But only for Trump... - GMDino - 11-22-2016 (11-22-2016, 01:14 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I could think of a great many reasons an Elected Official would hold an off the record meeting and it probably happens much more than we know because they are off the record. I know Scalia (maybe others) didn't allow their speeches outside of the courtroom to be recorded but people would take notes. I just think that leaves too much up to interpretation. RE: Fesitvus! But only for Trump... - Benton - 11-22-2016 (11-22-2016, 12:48 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Seems someone in the meeting does not understand what off the record means. Nothing is off the record. (11-22-2016, 12:56 PM)GMDino Wrote: See I don't understand why the President (or any elected official) would want an off the record meeting. Then it's "he said / he said". have it recorded and then there is no doubt about conversation. It makes it easier to deny what was said. His board room negotiations aren't normally televised, so he can say whatever he wants and, if it comes back to bite him later, can take a Clinton and say "I don't recall that." He's hoping to get some of that ability with the press, but I don't see it happening outside of maybe Fox. (11-22-2016, 01:16 PM)GMDino Wrote: I know Scalia (maybe others) didn't allow their speeches outside of the courtroom to be recorded but people would take notes. I just think that leaves too much up to interpretation. Courtrooms are a little different. State laws vary, but, generally, a judge has the right to limit access to the court, to exclude recording devices and to prohibit photography. Outside the courtroom, they can be recorded like anyone else even without consent, so long as you're part of the conversation. RE: Fesitvus! But only for Trump... - GMDino - 11-22-2016 (11-22-2016, 02:14 PM)Benton Wrote: Nothing is off the record. I know why Trump did it...I was implying that. But also saying that without a record there's nothing to keep that "lamestream media" from just making things up about him. But Scalia didn't allow himself to be recorded: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/13/us/scalia-apologizes-for-seizure-of-recordings.html?_r=0 Quote:Justice Antonin Scalia of the Supreme Court has apologized to two Mississippi reporters who were required to erase recordings of a speech he gave at a high school there on Wednesday. So eventually he allowed them to write it down, but no recording. RE: Fesitvus! But only for Trump... - Benton - 11-22-2016 (11-22-2016, 02:22 PM)GMDino Wrote: I know why Trump did it...I was implying that. But also saying that without a record there's nothing to keep that "lamestream media" from just making things up about him. And he's within his rights there, as it didn't meet the standard of a conversation. If the reporters had asked him questions off podium and attempted to record answers, he couldn't have done that. Although it would be interesting if it would meet the standard if Saclia had opened the floor to questions. RE: Fesitvus! But only for Trump... - Nebuchadnezzar - 11-22-2016 (11-22-2016, 03:17 PM)Benton Wrote: And he's within his rights there, as it didn't meet the standard of a conversation. If the reporters had asked him questions off podium and attempted to record answers, he couldn't have done that. Although it would be interesting if it would meet the standard if Saclia had opened the floor to questions. If Scalia would had opened the floor for questions, then the recording could begin since questions come fast and furious and no matter how fast you can write, a reporter wouldn't have been able to keep up. I can understand why someone would say "No Recording" when that person is to give a statement or speech. Since a recording can be edited to make it sound like something else was said and having what was said in your own voice even if corrected later, that damage will be done and no amount of evidence will change it. Anyone can say, "Something needs to be done about illegal immigration. It's a drain on our system and we are losing money hand over fist." a reporter or someone with an agenda can easily remover the word "Illegal" and make it sound as if that person is against immigration. RE: Fesitvus! But only for Trump... - Benton - 11-22-2016 (11-22-2016, 05:32 PM)Nebuchadnezzar Wrote: If Scalia would had opened the floor for questions, then the recording could begin since questions come fast and furious and no matter how fast you can write, a reporter wouldn't have been able to keep up. Good point, but it's more about federal wire tapping laws. Per the law, you can record someone you're having a conversation with; asking them a question and them responding (even if it's 'no comment') generally meets what most judges would consider requirements for a conversation. As far as the last part, that's always a concern. But it goes back to ethics and credibility. Real journalists (not tv infotainment hosts who are just there to drive ratings) know their job only exists as long as what they write is the truth. Not the interpretation of the truth, but the actual things that happen, are said, or are in records. But real journalists are disappearing faster than high paying manufacturing jobs and honest politicians. RE: Fesitvus! But only for Trump... - bfine32 - 11-22-2016 (11-22-2016, 02:14 PM)Benton Wrote: Nothing is off the record. I suppose that would depend on the ethics of the person you talked to. RE: Fesitvus! But only for Trump... - fredtoast - 11-22-2016 The only legit purpose for an "off the record" conversation is when the information gathered in that conversation directs a reporter to another source of information. Sometimes the privacy of the source has to be protected or else the reporter will never get necessary information. But wanting something to be "off the record" just so you can say stuff you don't want the public to hear is bullshit. RE: Fesitvus! But only for Trump... - 6andcounting - 11-22-2016 (11-22-2016, 12:33 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: What should they do when he lies again? Just ignore it? Fat, so that's synonymous with lazy, right? Are you really using the lazy stereotype to describe a Hispanic right now? I'm triggered. RE: Fesitvus! But only for Trump... - BmorePat87 - 11-23-2016 (11-22-2016, 08:43 PM)6andcounting Wrote: Fat, so that's synonymous with lazy, right? Go to Jungle Noise. It's your designated safe space now. RE: Fesitvus! But only for Trump... - tigerseye - 11-23-2016 It seems to me the point of the meeting was to get the Main Stream Propaganda Outlets to quit lying through their teeth about everything and to get them to quit purposely sowing discord between everyone. Main Strem Propaganda Outlet (MSPO) - "He's a racist", "thats racist", "their racist", "voters are sexist", "my students are crying" (p%$#ies), "thats xenophobic" (the support of ILLEGAL immigrants is not based on caring it is based on more votes to get and stay in power and its benefits), "that makes me uncomfortable" (who cares), "thats fake news" (because we lost and we can't deal with the truth and we don't want our voter base to figure out that they have been lied to), "thats hate speech and should be removed from tweeter and from excess to the internet" (because they don't like the truth to be revealed because if peoples minds open up to the truth they will lose their voting base.-thats why they are terrified more individuals in the black community getting past their propaganda- thats why they are beating the drums of racism) (kicking people off tweeter and the internet is stopping others free speech under the Constitution- in my view very serious- Wonder if Soros (Mister race war) came up with that from his days working with the Nazis which he admitted to in interview. MSPO will find extremist idiots and paint a picture like "see thats the way they all act". NOT!!!! MSPO purposely plant, water and fertilize the very thing that they talk down about with their words. It's clever propaganda. Don't be played. Open your eyes to it. God Bless America RE: Fesitvus! But only for Trump... - GMDino - 11-23-2016 (11-23-2016, 02:04 PM)tigerseye Wrote: FIFY. There wasn't one clear, cogent point in your response. But thanks? |