(07-27-2018, 08:55 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Hmm, I think folks like to hate on Dre, because he's never lived up to his "swag" nickname coming from 'Bama. He's an average CB, that is all. He's had some good games, but overall nothing special in his body of work in the NFL.
Look at him this way. Of good Bengal CBs of the past 10-15 years, who is he better than? Jonathan Joseph, nope. Leon Hall, nope. Adam Jones, nope. Deltha O'neal, nope. William Jackson, nope. Darquez Dennard, nope. There are probably another couple that I'm forgetting about, but you can clearly see the point I'm aiming at, right?
I get that, and though I don't think Dre is as bad as he's made out to be.... (how many times have we seen him bust it from the other side of the field to save a touchdown) , that's really not the point. Even if one believed he's an average corner, hating on him because of AJ making catches on him in non-contact first week training camp, where the main goal is not to get anyone like AJ hurt is, simply, ridiculous. There is plenty to criticize people about, this isn't one of them. Again, I try to be fair to the players and coaches and owner. There's enough to legitimately complain about without making stuff up.....
(07-28-2018, 08:46 AM)Sled21 Wrote: I get that, and though I don't think Dre is as bad as he's made out to be.... (how many times have we seen him bust it from the other side of the field to save a touchdown) , that's really not the point. Even if one believed he's an average corner, hating on him because of AJ making catches on him in non-contact first week training camp, where the main goal is not to get anyone like AJ hurt is, simply, ridiculous. There is plenty to criticize people about, this isn't one of them. Again, I try to be fair to the players and coaches and owner. There's enough to legitimately complain about without making stuff up.....
I never said a word about him giving up catches to AJ Green in practice. Green is a superstar, he makes pro bowl corners look average in live games. I'm speaking more to Dre's complete body of work. Like I said, he's had some good games, but he also makes enough head scratching plays to raise the question of his consistency.
Perhaps new DC Austin will scheme the secondary to maximize Dre's strengths, rather than leaving him vulnerable to getting beat?
Volson is meh, but I like him, and he has far exceeded my expectations
(07-28-2018, 09:10 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I'm speaking more to Dre's complete body of work.
Yea. 80 career games and 10 interceptions is kind of meh. I think he is capable of better. I will say he has been fairly durable though missing only 5 games in 5 years.
(07-28-2018, 09:40 AM)The Real Deal Wrote: Feel for the kid. I’ll be pulling for him next season.
Being a 7th round pick doesn't bode well for his future. I guess it'll depend greatly on how much faith the team has in his ability to come back next year . Its not like there was some huge bidding war for his slot in the draft..
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(07-28-2018, 09:52 AM)Goalpost Wrote: Yea. 80 career games and 10 interceptions is kind of meh. I think he is capable of better. I will say he has been fairly durable though missing only 5 games in 5 years.
Not to mention i think he had 2 vs Peyton Manning in a rare prime time win back when Jeremy Hill actually looked like an nfl running back
Anyone else super pumped for Tyler Boyd. We talk about John Ross taking that next step but we also spent a 2nd rounder on Tyler Boyd. Maybe how last season ended got his confidence way up.
(07-27-2018, 05:45 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Are you serious?! Dre was in PERFECT position! How else could he have defended that?! Like I said, Dalton dropped a dime over his outside shoulder, which is easy to defend if you're 6'7 with a vertical like LeBron James, but otherwise that's just a perfect offensive play. If he was on the outside of AJ, then Andy could have just thrown the ball anywhere to the inside of the field and let AJ go get it.
The one to Ross, his head was turned and he did have his arms out, but then Ross just made that burst at the last second, which, when a guy as fast as Ross does that, there's not much you can do.
Be excited about the play from Dalton and Ross, not disappointed by the play by Dre!
In the pic below the ball has just arrived in AJ's hands. This is the position of AJ Green and the ball has traveled all the way there and Kirkpatrick is?
-pollack says the right things, and we'll see how that translates when pads go on
-boyd taking #2 reps to me says they're looking at a housh/henry relationship with boyd and ross, which is #fine
-double moves w/ no pads/contact is stupidly unfair. speed kills.
(07-27-2018, 07:43 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Thanks to this vid, I watched this one. Very interesting and can't say I disagree on many points. Gotta say the breakdown of the defense was cool.
Dalton stood face to face with Clowney and took him head on to make the td saving open field tackle after the Ross fumble. Dalton always would make a tackle on an Int/fumble return, but I haven't seen him do it much since the injury.
Thanks for the vid.
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Tiki forgot to.do.his homework.
Ken Zampese derailed everyones season from the start and the offense could never recover.
Mixon never got into a flow.
Hill would get x amount of carries then Mixon would get some touches
but by that time Bengals would be down 17 3 and have to change pass run ratio.
Tiki forgot to mention the Bengals oline coach too who didnt help matters
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