Coronavirus

[Belsnickel]

Joe Manchin on the Senate floor to Mitch McConnell, criticizing the GOP bill proposal:

"...we're more concerned about the healthcare of Wall Street than the healthcare of the rural people and the people on Main Street."

[*michaelsean*]

(03-23-2020, 09:16 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Joe Manchin on the Senate floor to Mitch McConnell, criticizing the GOP bill proposal:

"...we're more concerned about the healthcare of Wall Street than the healthcare of the rural people and the people on Main Street."

God is that lazy. I have no interest in the partisan bullshit. I don’t care about your pet project. I don’t care about appeasing your donors. Make it work.

[Belsnickel]

(03-23-2020, 09:26 PM)michaelsean Wrote: God is that lazy. I have no interest in the partisan bullshit. I don’t care about your pet project. I don’t care about appeasing your donors. Make it work.

Honestly, though, with what they were proposing I don't want that passed. Between the lack of accountability as well as the lack of protection for workers (the whole point of bailing out businesses is to keep workers going), that bill should not go to the floor. They do need to figure it out, but what has been put on the table isn't going to help the people. The economy doesn't matter if people aren't able to take part in it.

[Belsnickel]

So, we used to have an expert in China whose job it would've been to keep our government in the loop on things over there and could have helped us get a jump start on things. Guess what happened to them.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-cdc-exclusiv/exclusive-u-s-axed-cdc-expert-job-in-china-months-before-virus-outbreak-idUSKBN21910S

Quote:WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Several months before the coronavirus pandemic began, the Trump administration eliminated a key American public health position in Beijing intended to help detect disease outbreaks in China, Reuters has learned.

[Vas Deferens]

Ruhroo

[Goalpost]

We need to help both workers and business, Both.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(03-23-2020, 09:38 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: So, we used to have an expert in China whose job it would've been to keep our government in the loop on things over there and could have helped us get a jump start on things. Guess what happened to them.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-cdc-exclusiv/exclusive-u-s-axed-cdc-expert-job-in-china-months-before-virus-outbreak-idUSKBN21910S

And then we whine about China not letting CDC officials into the country to monitor the outbreak after we eliminated the CDC position to monitor outbreaks in China.

[Vas Deferens]

(03-23-2020, 11:30 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: And then we whine about China not letting CDC officials into the country to monitor the outbreak after we eliminated the CDC position to monitor outbreaks in China.

We’ll see, some people say Obama, I think so, but we’ll see, we’ll see, and we’ll see it all, forever we’ll see, we’ll see everything, nobody’s ever seen more forever possibly, but we’ll see, maybe. But probably, I think.

[Mike M (the other one)]

And my 2 week mandatory vacation started today.
. Gonna be a long 2 weeks....

[NATI BENGALS]

(03-23-2020, 09:57 AM)GMDino Wrote: They still want that Matt.  They are still flooding social media with Trump2020 and the Democrats are blocking bills to help.

Anyway, I post the other day about my daughter.  She seemed to be okay all weekend but woke up this morning with trouble breathing.  She is going to a test site if she can't get a script from her doctor (she called in this morning).

She was a preemie (3 months early) and while minimal to say the least she had lung problems then that comes with that.  She has mild asthma and has had bronchitis and pneumonia in the past.  Also she can be a bit of a hypochondriac...lol...but it is best she get tested obviously.

Because of that *I* am quarantining...at least for today.  I told my boss that I was with her the first day she got sick (she didn't have a fever that day...doesn't seem to have one now either) and I feel fine but we both thought it best to give it a day at least and see.

But this cascades:  My wife works at a foodbank.  She helps take care of her 74 year stepdad with stage 4 cancer.  My daughter lives above her step grandfather with her husband who is in the National Guard.  So many people can be affected by ONE person.



And here is the bigger issue: even if they let us all go back to work in a month this virus will still be out there with no cure and no vaccine. Anyone of us can get it at anytime until they get the vaccine in a year or more.


Time to close the entire country for two weeks or a month, limit the spread and deal with it from there.

It's a once in a century event. No one is prepared. We're going to have to suffer and hope that when the history books are written they are kind to us for how we handled it.

That graphic should probably be played on TV commercials. 

This is in the same family of the common cold. Waves of this every year is not sustainable if it is going to have a 1% death rate. We need to eradicate this. Not live with it. 

[Belsnickel]

(03-23-2020, 11:14 PM)Goalpost Wrote: We need to help both workers and business, Both.

Agreed. But some folks in Congress only seem to be concerned about business.

[*michaelsean*]

Well I see Pelosi is being her usual helpful self.

[Belsnickel]

(03-24-2020, 08:06 AM)michaelsean Wrote: Well I see Pelosi is being her usual helpful self.

What'd she do now?

[Vas Deferens]

(03-24-2020, 08:53 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: What'd she do now?

She didnt give the GOP free reign to an anonymous restriction-free bailout to whoever they choose without oversight while leaving the masses to struggle in a failing healthcare system unable to save the lives of the vulnerable and putting its front line heros at risk.  B!TCH!

don't worry, daddy's going to open everything up and kill all the doctors real soon.  

[*michaelsean*]

(03-24-2020, 09:08 AM)Vas Deferens Wrote: She didnt give the GOP free reign to an anonymous restriction-free bailout to whoever they choose without oversight while leaving the masses to struggle in a failing healthcare system unable to save the lives of the vulnerable and putting its front line heros at risk.  B!TCH!

don't worry, daddy's going to open everything up and kill all the doctors real soon.  

That's how you see it? You are aware there are Senate Democrats negotiating, and it can't go anywhere without them right? I see both sides in the Senate trying to bridge their differences, and her flying in at the 11th hour to muddle everything up.  

[*michaelsean*]

(03-24-2020, 08:53 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: What'd she do now?

Probably nothing you didn't know, I'm guessing I just read about it later than most.

[CKwi88]

(03-24-2020, 05:54 AM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: And my 2 week mandatory vacation started today.
. Gonna be a long 2 weeks....

I'd get ready for longer. 

[Vas Deferens]

(03-24-2020, 09:16 AM)michaelsean Wrote: That's how you see it? You are aware there are Senate Democrats negotiating, and it can't go anywhere without them right? I see both sides in the Senate trying to bridge their differences, and her flying in at the 11th hour to muddle everything up.  

Yes.  That's what she was protesting against.  Maybe you haven't read the part about giving restriction free bailouts to corporate entity's anonymously.  You'll catch up.

Don't worry.  Daddy's death panel is assembling to put together a leaflet mandating who gets to use the ventilator and who's plug gets pulled.  hope you enjoy that latte.

[GMDino]

(03-23-2020, 09:35 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Honestly, though, with what they were proposing I don't want that passed. Between the lack of accountability as well as the lack of protection for workers (the whole point of bailing out businesses is to keep workers going), that bill should not go to the floor. They do need to figure it out, but what has been put on the table isn't going to help the people. The economy doesn't matter if people aren't able to take part in it.

But Trump, who had his lawyer create a fake shell company to they could pay $130,00 to a pornstar so she wouldn't talk about another one of Trump's affairs said HE will be the oversight.

If we can't trust him who can we trust? 

[GMDino]

Not to get too far off topic but there seems to be a need for this.

https://www.history.com/news/why-was-it-called-the-spanish-flu

Quote:In the spring of 1918, just as the man-made horrors of World War I were finally starting to wind down, Mother Nature unleashed the deadliest strain of influenza in modern history. The virus infected as much as 40 percent of the global population over the next 18 months. Of these, an estimated 20 to 50 million perished—more than the roughly 17 million people killed during the First World War. The pandemic’s grasp stretched from the United States and Europe to the remote reaches of Greenland and the Pacific islands. Its victims included the likes of President Woodrow Wilson, who contracted it while negotiating the Treaty of Versailles in early 1919.


As the pandemic reached epic proportions in the fall of 1918, it became commonly known as the “Spanish Flu” or the “Spanish Lady” in the United States and Europe. Many assumed this was because the sickness had originated on the Iberian Peninsula, but the nickname was actually the result of a widespread misunderstanding. 


Spain was one of only a few major European countries to remain neutral during World War I. Unlike in the Allied and Central Powers nations, where wartime censors suppressed news of the flu to avoid affecting morale, the Spanish media was free to report on it in gory detail. News of the sickness first made headlines in Madrid in late-May 1918, and coverage only increased after the Spanish King Alfonso XIII came down with a nasty case a week later. Since nations undergoing a media blackout could only read in depth accounts from Spanish news sources, they naturally assumed that the country was the pandemic’s ground zero. The Spanish, meanwhile, believed the virus had spread to them from France, so they took to calling it the “French Flu.”

While it’s unlikely that the “Spanish Flu” originated in Spain, scientists are still unsure of its source. France, China and Britain have all been suggested as the potential birthplace of the virus, as has the United States, where the first known case was reported at a military base in Kansas on March 11, 1918. Researchers have also conducted extensive studies on the remains of victims of the pandemic, but they have yet to discover why the strain that ravaged the world in 1918 was so lethal.

READ MORE ABOUT THE 1918 PANDEMIC: 
How US Cities Tried to Halt the Spread of the 1918 Spanish Flu
Why the Second Wave of the 1918 Spanish Flu Was So Deadly
Amid 1918 Flu Pandemic, America Struggled to Bury the Dead

Not posting it over in the memes and jokes thread because that's not what that thread is for.

Anyone who reads this and continues to use that as their "reason" for calling it the "Chinese Virus" is being willfully ignorant.  

Not that that would unusual in this world but there it is.