Coronavirus

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(06-23-2020, 01:34 AM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: You forgot basket of deplorables, bigots, sexists, racists, tyrants, egotistical, nationalist, narcissist and bully. 

Still not sure why I even bother on here. It's not balanced at all. Bfine, you should just let them pump themselves up and stop wasting your time. Your not going to change their minds and they aren't going to change ours. 

Good deeds such as what Trump blocked a few days back and not one single mention of it from you guys. I applaud the move 100%. Maybe I missed it, because this forum is over saturated with "500 ways I hate Trump" posts. And the problem is it will be another 4 years of this. 

Then you can be the first to extol the virtues of this good deed.

[Mike M (the other one)]

(06-23-2020, 04:21 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Then you can be the first to extol the virtues of this good deed.

Why bother? Most of you will find a way to complain about it. It's your nature.

[*Nately120*]

(06-23-2020, 07:59 AM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Why bother? Most of you will find a way to complain about it. It's your nature.

Im not so sure about that.  The idea of liberals softening on George W Bush seemed like an impossibility but it happened so never say never.  

I dont mind hating on Trump because he has no respect for any aspect of the democratic system that doesn't directly benefit him.  I just wish he'd find some shithole country to rule if he wants to be an overpowered and unquestioned dictator.  Think Jonestown with a globally recognized government and borders.   

I'm legitimately sick of him badmouthing every aspect of our country that doesn't fluff his ego. 

[GMDino]

(06-23-2020, 07:59 AM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Why bother? Most of you will find a way to complain about it. It's your nature.

So you are preemptively complaining?  

Defend Trump.  Praise Trump!  It's a free country.  But be prepared that someone may disagree with you.  That's all.  

[Dill]

(06-23-2020, 07:59 AM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Why bother? Most of you will find a way to complain about it. It's your nature.

When a president does something illegal, unethical, or incompetent, most of us will "find a way to complain." 

Yes. It's our nature.

Why is that not YOUR nature?  

How is it that you have NOT found a way to complain when this president does something illegal, unethical or incompetent?

Very odd to say "why bother?" addressing people who hold the president to such standards.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(06-23-2020, 07:59 AM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Why bother? Most of you will find a way to complain about it. It's your nature.

I might do one of two options. I might complain. I might not complain. So the forecast calls for a 50% chance of complaining. It also calls for a 50% chance of not complaining.

[BmorePat87]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/23/trump-joking-slowing-coronavirus-testing-335459

Trump doubled down on his suggestion that he wants to slow down testing to lower Covid #'s.

At his rally he said: “When you do testing to that extent, you’re going to find more people. You’re going to find more cases. So I said to my people, ‘Slow the testing down, please.’”

His trade advisor then called it "tongue in cheek" while the press secretary then said “It was a comment that he made in jest. Any suggestion that testing has been curtailed is not rooted in fact.”

Trump made it clear that he was serious:

“I don’t kid. Let me just tell you. Let me make it clear. We have got the greatest testing program anywhere in the world. We test better than anybody in the world. Our tests are the best in the world, and we have the most of them. By having more tests, we find more cases,”

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(06-23-2020, 03:21 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/23/trump-joking-slowing-coronavirus-testing-335459

Trump doubled down on his suggestion that he wants to slow down testing to lower Covid #'s.

At his rally he said: “When you do testing to that extent, you’re going to find more people. You’re going to find more cases. So I said to my people, ‘Slow the testing down, please.’”

His trade advisor then called it "tongue in cheek" while the press secretary then said “It was a comment that he made in jest. Any suggestion that testing has been curtailed is not rooted in fact.”

Trump made it clear that he was serious:

“I don’t kid. Let me just tell you. Let me make it clear. We have got the greatest testing program anywhere in the world. We test better than anybody in the world. Our tests are the best in the world, and we have the most of them. By having more tests, we find more cases,”

Our tests are the best in the world? The White House uses Abbott Lab’s Covid 19 test to test Trump. It’s the same test Abbott produces around the world including China who was using the test in January which the Trump administration refused to approve for US use until April.

Uninformed and dishonest isn’t a good look for a US President.

[BmorePat87]

Trump to end federal funding of testing sites... the administration is also looking to pin all Covid blame on the CDC

[GMDino]

(06-24-2020, 06:45 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Trump to end federal funding of testing sites... the administration is also looking to pin all Covid blame on the CDC

Well that makes sense since the number of positive cases and hospital admissions are rising. 

[*Nately120*]

(06-24-2020, 06:45 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Trump to end federal funding of testing sites... the administration is also looking to pin all Covid blame on the CDC

I guess he just figures he's in too deep now to change his tune.  I can't wrap my head around the notion that any Trump voter was going to abandon him and vote for dumabass Joe Biden or Jo Jorgensen (a candidate that so irrelevant you aren't even sure I didn't just make her up) because Trump admitted that a disease that has killed over 100k+ Americans might be worth taking seriously.

TRUMP SUPPORTER - Trump is the best!
TRUMP - Maybe we should take a disease seriously and try to prevent Americans from dying.
TRUMP SUPPORTER  - Holy crap, I'm a liberal now...take away my guns and make me kiss a gay man RIGHT NOW! Open the borders! Let ISIS and a bunch of rapist Mexicans in! Make my daughter share a bathroom with a rapist in drag!

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(06-24-2020, 06:45 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Trump to end federal funding of testing sites... the administration is also looking to pin all Covid blame on the CDC

That’s consistent with his less testing equals less cases lies. It’s clear his strategy is to artificially reduce the numbers and pretend things are normal while ignoring reality all in an attempt to get re-elected based upon the economy. If more people have to die unnecessarily to accomplish that then so be it.

I’m not sure if this is worse than Bush’s unnecessary war in Iraq or vice versa.

[*Nately120*]

(06-24-2020, 11:39 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: That’s consistent with his less testing equals less cases lies. It’s clear his strategy is to artificially reduce the numbers and pretend things are normal while ignoring reality all in an attempt to get re-elected based upon the economy. If more people have to die unnecessarily to accomplish that then so be it.

I’m not sure if this is worse than Bush’s unnecessary war in Iraq or vice versa.

But Trump's supporters are already buying the line that the number of cases are inflated by the liberal media to make him look bad.  The numbers should be irrelevant.  I'm probably just assuming everyone who votes from Trump is a full blown cultist though, so I'm being unfair and underestimating his appeal, perhaps.

All the scary and awful things liberals are going to do if they win, and Trump can't risk looking like he wants to save or value American lives is going to sink his campaign and change their minds?  Ida know.


Seriously, find a Trump supporter and ask them if Trump says we have underestimated covid (he can blame everyone who isn't himself for it, too) if they'll vote for Biden.

[Dill]

(06-24-2020, 11:44 PM)Nately120 Wrote:
But Trump's supporters are already buying the line that the number of cases are inflated by the liberal media to make him look bad.  The numbers should be irrelevant.  I'm probably just assuming everyone who votes from Trump is a full blown cultist though, so I'm being unfair and underestimating his appeal, perhaps.

All the scary and awful things liberals are going to do if they win, and Trump can't risk looking like he wants to save or value American lives is going to sink his campaign and change their minds?  Ida know.

Seriously, find a Trump supporter and ask them if Trump says we have underestimated covid (he can blame everyone who isn't himself for it, too) if they'll vote for Biden.

Fox commentators are conducting that chorus.

There is just no analytical capacity in that base, only free-association easily manipulated from without. 

Trump base won't correlate COV deaths with his policies. They won't compare his past statements with present. They won't compare our unsuccessful management with the successful management of other countries in any way that attributes this to differences in leadership or policy.

They can tell you where the "Kung flu" came from though.  And what Biden said in February.

They won't let the Dems throw an election with another hoax.

[BmorePat87]

(06-24-2020, 11:36 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I guess he just figures he's in too deep now to change his tune.  I can't wrap my head around the notion that any Trump voter was going to abandon him and vote for dumabass Joe Biden or Jo Jorgensen (a candidate that so irrelevant you aren't even sure I didn't just make her up) because Trump admitted that a disease that has killed over 100k+ Americans might be worth taking seriously.

TRUMP SUPPORTER - Trump is the best!
TRUMP - Maybe we should take a disease seriously and try to prevent Americans from dying.
TRUMP SUPPORTER  - Holy crap, I'm a liberal now...take away my guns and make me kiss a gay man RIGHT NOW!  Open the borders!  Let ISIS and a bunch of rapist Mexicans in!  Make my daughter share a bathroom with a rapist in drag!

lol, I do know she's real because I've had to listen to people on facebook try to argue that she's a viable candidate. Shiiiit, when I was registered as a Libertarian, I knew Gary Johnson wasn't viable and he was a former governor running with another former governor. 

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-abruptly-cut-off-170725046.html

White House cuts funding on Covid 19 research.

I guess this is what Trump thinks is a tremendous job?

[GMDino]

(06-26-2020, 12:09 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-abruptly-cut-off-170725046.html

White House cuts funding on Covid 19 research.

I guess this is what Trump thinks is a tremendous job?

Trump still insisting the virus is "artificial"

Trump repeatedly describes the coronavirus pandemic as an "artificial problem." (The 126,000 Americans who have died could not be reached for comment.) pic.twitter.com/EngQ83glXL

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) June 26, 2020

[Dill]

(06-26-2020, 12:09 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-abruptly-cut-off-170725046.html

White House cuts funding on Covid 19 research.

I guess this is what Trump thinks is a tremendous job?

This is the kind of thing that needs to be in Biden campaign adds.

Along with repeated claims that "testing" increases number of cases.

Show him saying it, his apologists claiming that's not what he meant, then him saying it again and again.

[BmorePat87]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/25/trump-sarcastically-suggests-slowing-down-coronavirus-testing-340850

So the new line is that Trump, despite saying he was serious and then cutting funding for testing, was being sarcastic when it said we need less testing.

The clear, consistent, and mature messaging coming from the White House really aids in combating this pandemic.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

Studies in leadership: never ask someone to do what you yourself are unwilling to do.


How bad of a leader do you have to be to be unable to get people to wear a mask during a pandemic?

What’s next? Trump is going to tell Americans, “The CDC recommends you practice safe sex, but the next time I cheat on my wife with a porn star I’m not going to wear a condom. I get tested for STDs regularly so I don’t feel like I need to wear a condom. It makes me look weak and scared; like I might catch something.”

Also, it seems like three people in that photo are trying to lead by example, but one person just won’t listen.