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(09-08-2020, 08:13 PM)bfine32 Wrote: The point is Universities made the choice whether to have in person classes or not. Everyone knew there was an increased risk of those kids getting COVID but also some medical folks think college age folks are less likely to experience any significant harm. Just because a youngster is Covid positive doesn't mean he/she is sick. You also realize that you can get those meals in the mess halls to go.
You can say it's best to have covid infected kids travel home to their elderly parents. I'll go with better to hold up in place and practice your preventives measures. But you're the medical expert.
Elderly parents?
Most college students are 18-22 y/o. For a parent to be 65 y/o or older they would have had their kid at age 43 or older. So most of these parents aren’t “elderly.” Just more of your BS to distract from the point.
One of the reasons the schools are having outbreaks is because the kids aren’t follow the protective measures.
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(09-08-2020, 08:59 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Elderly parents?
Most college students are 18-22 y/o. For a parent to be 65 y/o or older they would have had their kid at age 43 or older. So most of these parents aren’t “elderly.” Just more of your BS to distract from the point.
One of the reasons the schools are having outbreaks is because the kids aren’t follow the protective measures.
As i said: You're the medical expert. So in your opinion we should let them travel home and expose their parents and not follow protective measures in their home towns. Can the parents even go back to work after exposed to a Covid positive child?
I typically agree with the advice of medical experts, but I'm not sure I'll roll with this one.
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(09-08-2020, 09:06 PM)bfine32 Wrote: As i said: You're the medical expert. So in your opinion we should let them travel home and expose their parents and not follow protective measures in their home towns. Can the parents even go back to work after exposed to a Covid positive child?
I typically agree with the advice of medical experts, but I'm not sure I'll roll with this one.
I didn’t state that anywhere. And if you don’t understand how isolating at home is easier than isolating in a dorm I can’t understand it for you.
My opinion is if you don’t want them to come home sick, don’t send them to get sick. Especially when today’s technology allows you to mitigate he risk. Especially, when Trump stated a vaccine will be ready in less than two months. What’s the goddamn rush to get students in class when the vaccine is so close?
Also, if the Trump administration isn’t going to tell the governors what to do then don’t tell the governors what to do.
Apparently, you’re committed to pretending like you don’t get the point so is this the start of another of your patented windmill noise defenses?
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(09-08-2020, 10:29 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: I didn’t state that anywhere. And if you don’t understand how isolating at home is easier than isolating in a dorm I can’t understand it for you.
My opinion is if you don’t want them to come home sick, don’t send them to get sick. Especially when today’s technology allows you to mitigate he risk. Especially, when Trump stated a vaccine will be ready in less than two months. What’s the goddamn rush to get students in class when the vaccine is so close?
Also, if the Trump administration isn’t going to tell the governors what to do then don’t tell the governors what to do.
Apparently, you’re committed to pretending like you don’t get the point so is this the start of another of your patented windmill noise defenses?
I get the point perfectly. Once you are infected you should quarantine at your present location. You shouldn't travel to another location with a new population and quarantine.
You were the one that said they most likely got it because they didn't follow mitigation rules. So yes, you did state that somewhere.
i get you're mad at Trump for sending kids to school, but IMO they should quarantine in place. Of course I'm not the medical expert.
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(09-09-2020, 12:08 AM)Vas Deferens Wrote: This is a worthless exchange...
Indeed. Let me try it:
If students stay home and do not go to school they have a better chance of not getting sick.
The Trump administration pushes and yells for colleges and schools to open because they want things to look "normal".
At the same time the administration knows they are putting students at a higher risk so they try and tell the colleges to not send students home so they don't spread the disease further....which would be a good idea if they had not insisted the students go there in the first place.
Republicans know and understand that this is a very contagious disease and they also know that a spike in cases shows that their strategy of just "open up" is bad for them in the political sense. So they play both ends of the rope.
If colleges had thought about their students more more would not be open. So some of the blame falls on them too.
But in the context of how this administration has pushed the public narrative - "Open everything!" & "When you get sick don't go home!" - they look bad.
That's not a surprise. Nor is having people defend the two views because...Trump.
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(09-09-2020, 08:46 AM)GMDino Wrote: Indeed. Let me try it:
If students stay home and do not go to school they have a better chance of not getting sick.
The Trump administration pushes and yells for colleges and schools to open because they want things to look "normal".
At the same time the administration knows they are putting students at a higher risk so they try and tell the colleges to not send students home so they don't spread the disease further....which would be a good idea if they had not insisted the students go there in the first place.
Republicans know and understand that this is a very contagious disease and they also know that a spike in cases shows that their strategy of just "open up" is bad for them in the political sense. So they play both ends of the rope.
If colleges had thought about their students more more would not be open. So some of the blame falls on them too.
But in the context of how this administration has pushed the public narrative - "Open everything!" & "When you get sick don't go home!" - they look bad.
That's not a surprise. Nor is having people defend the two views because...Trump.
I get the easy answer for the Liberal is to blame schools choosing to reopen on the Republicans; but the answer is not that simple. Many schools and parents were pushing for schools to reopen. Hell the Big 10 canceled Fall sports and the parents lost their minds. This was not because of Republicans.
WTS and you long unbiased answer, you failed to address the point discussed. If a kid is Covid positive on a college campus, should he/she quarantine in place or travel to a different population?
To get a simple answer to the question posed would be quite refreshing.
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(09-09-2020, 11:36 AM)bfine32 Wrote: I get the easy answer for the Liberal is to blame schools choosing to reopen on the Republicans; but the answer is not that simple. Many schools and parents were pushing for schools to reopen. Hell the Big 10 canceled Fall sports and the parents lost their minds. This was not because of Republicans.
WTS and you long unbiased answer, you failed to address the point discussed. If a kid is Covid positive on a college campus, should he/she quarantine in place or travel to a different population?
To get a simple answer to the question posed would be quite refreshing.
This answer is too complex for you to understand?
(09-08-2020, 11:01 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: I also said unless extensive travel is involved it’s better to isolate in the privacy of your home than in a dorm.
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So this could be looked at as the POTUS wasn't lying when he (belatedly) said he knew about the virus long before everyone else and that he was just trying to not "panic" people.
Or it could be seen as the POTUS knew it was bad but decided to do nothing to help people prepare and then continued to "play it down" (his words) even as the virus spread. Going so far as to mock people who wore masks and blame Democratic officials for mishandling everything. He also knew it affected younger people too and continues to lie about it in public.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/09/politics/bob-woodward-rage-book-trump-coronavirus/index.html?utm_source=twCNNp&utm_medium=social&utm_content=2020-09-09T15%3A53%3A23&utm_term=image&fbclid=IwAR0zCyGdl8aZDpaPdHhSSFMHT2IiC5tRW2p2EzFG6sXY-OD65xbfNCggxrU
Quote:'Play it down': Trump admits to concealing the true threat of coronavirus in new Woodward book
By Jamie Gangel, Jeremy Herb and Elizabeth Stuart, CNN
Updated 11:51 AM ET, Wed September 9, 2020
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Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump admitted he knew weeks before the first confirmed US coronavirus death that the virus was dangerous, airborne, highly contagious and "more deadly than even your strenuous flus," and that he repeatedly played it down publicly, according to legendary journalist Bob Woodward in his new book "Rage."
"This is deadly stuff," Trump told Woodward on February 7.
In a series of interviews with Woodward, Trump revealed that he had a surprising level of detail about the threat of the virus earlier than previously known. "Pretty amazing," Trump told Woodward, adding that the coronavirus was maybe five times "more deadly" than the flu.
Trump's admissions are in stark contrast to his frequent public comments at the time insisting that the virus was "going to disappear" and "all work out fine."
The book, using Trump's own words, depicts a President who has betrayed the public trust and the most fundamental responsibilities of his office. In "Rage," Trump says the job of a president is "to keep our country safe." But in early February, Trump told Woodward he knew how deadly the virus was, and in March, admitted he kept that knowledge hidden from the public.
"I wanted to always play it down," Trump told Woodward on March 19, even as he had declared a national emergency over the virus days earlier. "I still like playing it down, because I don't want to create a panic."
If instead of playing down what he knew, Trump had acted decisively in early February with a strict shutdown and a consistent message to wear masks, social distance and wash hands, experts believe that thousands of American lives could have been saved.
The startling revelations in "Rage," which CNN obtained ahead of its September 15 release, were made during 18 wide-ranging interviews Trump gave Woodward from December 5, 2019 to July 21, 2020. The interviews were recorded by Woodward with Trump's permission, and CNN has obtained copies of some of the audio tapes.
"Rage" also includes brutal assessments of Trump's presidency from many of his former top national security officials, including former Defense Secretary James Mattis, former Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats and former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson. Mattis is quoted as calling Trump "dangerous" and "unfit" to be commander in chief. Woodward writes that Coats "continued to harbor the secret belief, one that had grown rather than lessened, although unsupported by intelligence proof, that Putin had something on Trump." Woodward continues, writing that Coats felt, "How else to explain the president's behavior? Coats could see no other explanation."
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In this White House photo from December 2019 provided by Bob Woodward, President Donald Trump is seen speaking to Woodward in the Oval Office, surrounded by some aides and advisers, as well as Vice President Mike Pence. On Trump's desk is a large picture of Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.
The book also contains harsh evaluations of the President's leadership on the virus from current officials.
Dr. Anthony Fauci, the administration's top infectious disease expert, is quoted telling others Trump's leadership was "rudderless" and that his "attention span is like a minus number."
"His sole purpose is to get reelected," Fauci told an associate, according to Woodward.
'The virus has nothing to do with me'
Woodward reveals new details on the early warnings Trump received -- and often ignored.
In a January 28 top secret intelligence briefing, national security adviser Robert O'Brien gave Trump a "jarring" warning about the virus, telling the President it would be the "biggest national security threat" of his presidency. Trump's head "popped up," Woodward writes.
O'Brien's deputy, Matt Pottinger, concurred, telling Trump it could be as bad as the influenza pandemic of 1918, which killed an estimated 50 million people worldwide, including 675,000 Americans. Pottinger warned Trump that asymptomatic spread was occurring in China: He had been told 50% of those infected showed no symptoms.
At that time, there were fewer than a dozen reported coronavirus cases in the US.
Three days later, Trump announced restrictions on travel from China, a move suggested by his national security team -- despite Trump's later claims that he alone backed the travel limitations.
Nevertheless, Trump continued to publicly downplay the danger of the virus. February was a lost month. Woodward views this as a damning missed opportunity for Trump to reset "the leadership clock" after he was told this was a "once-in-a-lifetime health emergency."
"Presidents are the executive branch. There was a duty to warn. To listen, to plan, and to take care," Woodward writes. But in the days following the January 28 briefing, Trump used high-profile appearances to minimize the threat and, Woodward writes, "to reassure the public they faced little risk."
During a pre-Super Bowl interview on Fox News February 2, Trump said, "We pretty much shut it down coming in from China." Two days later during his State of the Union address, Trump made only a passing reference to the virus, promising, "my administration will take all necessary steps to safeguard our citizens from this threat."
Asked by Woodward in May if he remembered O'Brien's January 28 warning that the virus would be the biggest national security threat of his presidency, Trump equivocated. "No, I don't." Trump said. "I'm sure if he said it — you know, I'm sure he said it. Nice guy."
The book highlights how the President took all of the credit and none of the responsibility for his actions related to the pandemic, which has infected 6 million Americans and killed more than 185,000 in the US.
"The virus has nothing to do with me," Trump told Woodward in their final interview in July. "It's not my fault. It's — China let the damn virus out."
'It goes through the air'
When Woodward spoke to Trump on February 7, two days after he was acquitted on impeachment charges by the Senate, Woodward expected a lengthy conversation about the trial. He was surprised, however, by the President's focus on the virus. At the same time that Trump and his public health officials were saying the virus was "low risk," Trump divulged to Woodward that the night before he'd spoken to Chinese President Xi Jinping about the virus. Woodward quotes Trump as saying, "We've got a little bit of an interesting setback with the virus going in China."
"It goes through the air," Trump said. "That's always tougher than the touch. You don't have to touch things. Right? But the air, you just breathe the air and that's how it's passed. And so that's a very tricky one. That's a very delicate one. It's also more deadly than even your strenuous flus."
But Trump spent most of the next month saying that the virus was "very much under control" and that cases in the US would "disappear." Trump said on his trip to India on February 25 that it was "a problem that's going to go away," and the next day he predicted the number of US cases "within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero."
By March 19, when Trump told Woodward he was purposely downplaying the dangers to avoid creating a panic, he also acknowledged the threat to young people. "Just today and yesterday, some startling facts came out. It's not just old, older. Young people too, plenty of young people," Trump said.
Publicly, however, Trump has continued to insist just the opposite, saying as recently as August 5 that children were "almost immune."
Even into April, when the US became the country with the most confirmed cases in the world, Trump's public statements contradicted his acknowledgements to Woodward. At an April 3 coronavirus task force briefing, Trump was still downplaying the virus and stating that it would go away. "I said it's going away and it is going away," he said. Yet two days later on April 5, Trump again told Woodward, "It's a horrible thing. It's unbelievable," and on April 13, he said, "It's so easily transmissible, you wouldn't even believe it."
'Dangerous' and 'unfit'
Woodward, a two-time Pulitzer Prize winner, conducted hundreds of hours of confidential background interviews with firsthand witnesses for "Rage," and he obtained "notes, emails, diaries, calendars and confidential documents," including more than two dozen letters Trump exchanged with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. Woodward is known to record his interviews with the permission of his subjects and sources.
He writes that when he attributes exact quotations, thoughts or conclusions, that information comes either from the person, a colleague with direct knowledge or documents.
Trump's conscious downplaying of the coronavirus is one of numerous revelations in "Rage." The book is filled with anecdotes about top cabinet officials blindsided by tweets, frustrated with Trump's inability to focus and scared about his next policy directive because he refused to accept facts or listen to experts:
-- Mattis is quoted as saying Trump is "dangerous," "unfit," has "no moral compass" and took foreign policy actions that showed adversaries "how to destroy America." After Mattis left the administration, he and Coats discussed whether they needed to take "collective action" to speak out publicly against Trump. Mattis says he ultimately resigned after Trump announced he was withdrawing US troops from Syria, "when I was basically directed to do something that I thought went beyond stupid to felony stupid."
-- Woodward writes that Coats and his top staff members "examined the intelligence as carefully as possible," and that Coats still questions the relationship between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin. "Coats saw how extraordinary it was for the president's top intelligence official to harbor such deep suspicions about the president's relationship with Putin. But he could not shake them."
-- Trump has come under fire in recent days for reportedly making disparaging remarks about US military personnel and veterans. Woodward's book includes an anecdote where an aide to Mattis heard Trump say in a meeting, "my f---ing generals are a bunch of *****" because they cared more about alliances than trade deals. Mattis asked the aide to document the comment in an email to him. And Trump himself criticized military officials to Woodward over their view that alliances with NATO and South Korea are the best bargain the US makes. "I wouldn't say they were stupid, because I would never say that about our military people," Trump said. "But if they said that, they -- whoever said that was stupid. It's a horrible bargain ... they make so much money. Costs us $10 billion. We're suckers."
-- Woodward reports that Trump's national security team expressed concerns the US may have come close to nuclear war with North Korea amid provocations in 2017. "We never knew whether it was real," Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is quoted as saying, "or whether it was a bluff." But it was so serious that Mattis slept in his clothes to be ready in case there was a North Korean launch and repeatedly went to the Washington National Cathedral to pray.
-- Trump boasted to Woodward about a new secret weapons system. "I have built a nuclear — a weapons system that nobody's ever had in this country before," Trump said. Woodward says other sources confirmed the information, without providing further details, but expressed surprise that Trump disclosed it.
-- Woodward obtained the 27 "love letters" Trump exchanged with Kim Jong Un, 25 of which have not been reported publicly. The letters, filled with flowery language, provide a fascinating window into their relationship. Kim flatters Trump by repeatedly calling him "Your Excellency," and writes in one letter that meeting again would be "reminiscent of a scene from a fantasy film." In another, Kim writes that the "deep and special friendship between us will work as a magical force." CNN has obtained the transcripts of two of the letters.
-- Trump's son-in-law and senior White House adviser Jared Kushner also weighs in with some unusual literary insights about his father-in-law. Kushner is quoted as saying that four texts are key to understanding Trump, including "Alice in Wonderland." Kushner paraphrased the Cheshire Cat: "If you don't know where you're going, any path will get you there."
-- Woodward pressed Trump on Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman's role in the 2018 killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi. Once again, Trump dismissed the US intelligence assessment and defends bin Salman: "He says very strongly that he didn't do it."
-- Trump insulted his predecessors, saying Woodward made former President George W. Bush "look like a stupid moron, which he was." Trump said of former President Barack Obama: "I don't think Obama's smart ... I think he's highly overrated. And I don't think he's a great speaker." He also tells Woodward that Kim Jong Un thought Obama was an "asshole."
-- Woodward discussed the Black Lives Matter protests and suggested to the President that people like the two of them -- "White, privileged" -- need to work to understand the anger and pain that Black people feel in the US. "You really drank the Kool-Aid, didn't you? Just listen to you," Trump responded, repeating his outrageous talking point that he's done more for the Black community than any president besides Abraham Lincoln.
-- Woodward reports new details on Russia's election meddling, writing that the NSA and CIA have classified evidence the Russians had placed malware in the election registration systems of at least two Florida counties, St. Lucie and Washington. While there was no evidence the malware had been activated, Woodward writes, it was sophisticated and could erase voters in specific districts. The voting system vendor used by Florida was also used in states across the country.
'Dynamite behind the door'
"Rage" is a follow-up to Woodward's 2018 bestselling book "Fear," which portrayed a chaotic White House in which aides hid papers from Trump to protect the country from what they viewed as his most dangerous impulses.
While Trump slammed "Fear," he also complained that he didn't speak to Woodward for the book, which resulted in his agreeing to extensive interviews for "Rage."
However, on August 14, Trump preemptively attacked Woodward's new book, tweeting, "The Bob Woodward book will be a FAKE, as always, just as many of the others have been."
Throughout the book, Trump provides insights into his view of the presidency. He tells Woodward when you're running the country, "There's dynamite behind every door."
After his 18 interviews, Woodward issues a stark verdict: Trump is the "dynamite behind the door." Woodward concludes his book with a declaration that "Trump is the wrong man for the job."
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(09-09-2020, 01:25 PM)GMDino Wrote: So this could be looked at as the POTUS wasn't lying when he (belatedly) said he knew about the virus long before everyone else and that he was just trying to not "panic" people.
Or it could be seen as the POTUS knew it was bad but decided to do nothing to help people prepare and then continued to "play it down" (his words) even as the virus spread. Going so far as to mock people who wore masks and blame Democratic officials for mishandling everything. He also knew it affected younger people too and continues to lie about it in public.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/09/politics/bob-woodward-rage-book-trump-coronavirus/index.html?utm_source=twCNNp&utm_medium=social&utm_content=2020-09-09T15%3A53%3A23&utm_term=image&fbclid=IwAR0zCyGdl8aZDpaPdHhSSFMHT2IiC5tRW2p2EzFG6sXY-OD65xbfNCggxrU
All the audio is at the link.
We all know he doesn't really have the best words, but there are ways of laying it on the public without inciting panic... Also.... I didn't need to be told he was bullshitting about it. My lying eyes and ears told me he was.
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(09-09-2020, 01:25 PM)GMDino Wrote: So this could be looked at as the POTUS wasn't lying when he (belatedly) said he knew about the virus long before everyone else and that he was just trying to not "panic" people.
Or it could be seen as the POTUS knew it was bad but decided to do nothing to help people prepare and then continued to "play it down" (his words) even as the virus spread. Going so far as to mock people who wore masks and blame Democratic officials for mishandling everything. He also knew it affected younger people too and continues to lie about it in public.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/09/politics/bob-woodward-rage-book-trump-coronavirus/index.html?utm_source=twCNNp&utm_medium=social&utm_content=2020-09-09T15%3A53%3A23&utm_term=image&fbclid=IwAR0zCyGdl8aZDpaPdHhSSFMHT2IiC5tRW2p2EzFG6sXY-OD65xbfNCggxrU
All the audio is at the link.
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(09-09-2020, 01:25 PM)GMDino Wrote: So this could be looked at as the POTUS wasn't lying when he (belatedly) said he knew about the virus long before everyone else and that he was just trying to not "panic" people.
Or it could be seen as the POTUS knew it was bad but decided to do nothing to help people prepare and then continued to "play it down" (his words) even as the virus spread. Going so far as to mock people who wore masks and blame Democratic officials for mishandling everything. He also knew it affected younger people too and continues to lie about it in public.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/09/politics/bob-woodward-rage-book-trump-coronavirus/index.html?utm_source=twCNNp&utm_medium=social&utm_content=2020-09-09T15%3A53%3A23&utm_term=image&fbclid=IwAR0zCyGdl8aZDpaPdHhSSFMHT2IiC5tRW2p2EzFG6sXY-OD65xbfNCggxrU
All the audio is at the link.
It does hit a little bit harder looking back at some of the things that were said around the same time as these interviews. Saying that the virus will disappear, that it is the Democrats new hoax (apparently he was referring to the criticism of how he was handling it when he said hoax but it certainly wasn’t worded that way) and refusing to wear a mask in public for several months.
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(09-09-2020, 04:45 PM)jason Wrote: We all know he doesn't really have the best words, but there are ways of laying it on the public without inciting panic... Also.... I didn't need to be told he was bullshitting about it. My lying eyes and ears told me he was.
Naturally this is just another example of him being unprepared and unavailable to to do the job. But I shared this on FB and have already been met with opposition that Democrats are the ones spreading the virus and Biden is puppet anyway.
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(09-09-2020, 04:57 PM)GMDino Wrote: Naturally this is just another example of him being unprepared and unavailable to to do the job. But I shared this on FB and have already been met with opposition that Democrats are the ones spreading the virus and Biden is puppet anyway.
I caught the press secretary damage control today. It was contentious to say the least.
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Trump's entire political career has been spent warning us about the deadly nature of:
illegal immigrants
liberal protester thugs
democrats
muslims
China
non-Christians
anyone who disagrees with him
BUT a global pandemic falls under "Best to keep this one quiet...we don't want to scare anyone."
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(09-09-2020, 05:55 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Trump's entire political career has been spent warning us about the deadly nature of:
illegal immigrants
liberal protester thugs
democrats
muslims
China
non-Christians
anyone who disagrees with him
BUT a global pandemic falls under "Best to keep this one quiet...we don't want to scare anyone."
This is without a doubt the best take I've read all day.
Kudos.
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Pretty quiet evening from the Trump crew...
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I can only assume Trump will say this is "save money".
https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-the-white-house-orders-end-to-covid-19-airport-screenings-for-international-travelers-172713942.html
Quote:WASHINGTON — The U.S. government on Monday will stop conducting enhanced screening of passengers on inbound international flights for COVID-19, Yahoo News has learned.
The screening operations have been held at select airports since January, when the first cases of the disease began to emerge from Wuhan, China. Since March, incoming international flights from select high-risk countries, including much of Europe, China and Iran, among other regions, have been funneled through 15 designated airports in the United States.
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On Monday, the government will stop conducting enhanced screening of passengers on inbound international flights for the coronavirus. (Mario Tama/Getty Images)
As of Monday, however, international flights will no longer be funneled into select airports for screening purposes and all screenings will come to a halt, according to communications and sources. All screenings and rerouting of select international flights will cease at exactly 12:01 a.m. on Monday, Sept. 14.
Currently, travelers upon arrival to the United States are sent to health screeners who take their temperatures and conduct a basic health screening with questions about typical COVID-19 symptoms. After the health screening, passengers proceed through passport control and customs.
One aspect of the screening is that travelers provide contact information, which can be used to perform contact tracing for infections. Without that information, it likely won’t be possible to contact passengers on a flight who may have potentially been exposed to someone infected with COVID-19.
The orders to cease prescreening operations came from the White House, with strict orders to keep the information secret until a public announcement is made. Meanwhile, behind the scenes, the various agencies — and contractors — involved in the airport screening operations are working frantically to prepare for Monday’s shutdown.
There are several agencies involved in aspects of the screenings, including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Customs and Border Protection and the Department of Homeland Security. Most screenings are administered at the airports by AMR, a Dallas contractor.
The White House orders to shut down the airport screenings for inbound international passengers comes amid rising COVID-19 case numbers and death counts and as experts warn of a potential second wave of the pandemic this fall.
The White House, the CDC, the Department of Homeland Security, Customs and Border Protection and AMR did not immediately respond to Yahoo News’ request for comment.
A government official told Yahoo News that the Transportation Security Administration, which is not directly involved in the screenings, had been briefed on the upcoming changes for its awareness.
The airport screening changes come not long after news late last month that employers were shedding more than 100,000 jobs, with airlines a major driver of those cuts.
This is also not the first time the White House has struggled with the question of airport COVID-19 screenings. The House oversight subcommittee on economic and consumer policy has previously criticized the White House for what it regarded as lax health screening of international passengers, and expressed concerns that plans to expand those screenings to domestic travelers were sidelining scientific advice.
In late April and early May, the White House reportedly clashed with the CDC over a proposal to screen domestic airline passengers for signs of COVID-19. “We’re also setting up a system where we do some testing, and we’re working with the airlines on that,” Trump said on April 28.
In the end, no national plan for domestic COVID-19 screenings at airports was ever announced.
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