03-27-2021, 01:30 AM
(03-27-2021, 01:17 AM)Whatever Wrote: AJ and Geno had no problems racking up All Pro honors and Pro Bowls. But they were actually elite players. What about the NFL 100? His fellow players don't see him as elite, either. The Pro Bowl voting is very stat driven, anyways, and 5 different Bengal pass catchers have made it since '05, so it stands to reason that if Boyd deserved it, he would have gotten it by now.
Higgins was not on pace for 1200 yards before Burrow got hurt. He had 629 receiving yards through week 10, which pro rated out would have put him at 1006. 7th in receptions? Great. He was only in double digit yards/target twice last year. His 6 catches for 41 yard performance against the Steelers was so impressive.
You have given no response on how Boyd is elite based on any kind of film study. You just keep saying Boyd is elite over and over again, but you can't say how he's elite, so there's no reason for anyone to think you're a highly knowledgeable fan that breaks down All 22 and can compare Boyd's tape to other top slot WR's and elaborate on why he's elite and what makes him so. You have shown me nothing to make me think you're more knowledgeable about the game than I or the average board member is. I've never said PFF is the gospel, but you've exhibited no football expertise that makes me think you're more football smart than them or the AP voters that vote on the All Pro team. You seem like the typical homer that watches the game with beer goggles on, if at all, and tries to overrate our good players as elite talent. Not to mention the fact that I never referenced PFF in regards to Boyd and Higgins, only the Bills' OL. And even then, discarding their grades entirely, it's still an OL comprised of a couple of 2nd round picks and B/C tier FA's.
Green Bay is tied with KC for the 2nd most YAC per completion at 5.5 YAC per Completion. The Bengals are tied for 25th at 3.9. Boyd averages 4.4, more than a yard less than those teams' averages. Yup, elite.
So you’re saying Whitworth wasn’t great from 2007-2013? Because you know, no pro bowls.
Geno and Green were legit top of their positions.
Godwin had 1 great year. Only 1 year over 1000 yards. But every other year from him, Boyd eclipses. Boyd has 2 1000 yard seasons
And Boyd has been dealing with back ups ever since he broke out in 2018.
And in 2018-2020 Green was either completely absent, injured for most of the season, or just washed up. Aka 2020 aj green
So Boyd has put up back to back 1000 yard seasons as THE guy for 75% of the time, and with back ups playing the majority of 2018, and Finley playing like 4 games in 2019.
Really, you need a bit of context.
And the whole point of the slot receiver is to be a guy who racks up the catches, not so much yards. That’s more the outside guys.
Do not, do not ever throw out pro bowls as a reference for which players are better than others.
Because you’re defending pro bowl selections, yet if I brought up Whitworth, you’d blow him off as not that good because he doesn’t have enough pro bowl selections.
