03-29-2021, 02:21 PM
(03-29-2021, 10:36 AM)impactplaya Wrote: Never under estimate what a,good oline coach can do for a unit.
Turner is no scapegoat. He just flatout cannot coach up a oline to be dominant or at least
Be on the same page.
Look at his resume. What olines under his watch have been considered well coached?
Thats what when he,was shown the door teams were lining up for his oline expertise, right?
No he is he drinking his Sam Adams Lager today waiting for a call from anyone dumb
Enough to hire his Sgt.Carter antics
If 1st RDs picks were everything how come Paul Alexander was 1 and done in Dallas?
Talent is nothing without coaching in the NFL.
I bet you anything Brian Callahan got a bit of wisdom from his dad who is oline coach
In Cleveland and passed it to ZT about overhauling the oline.
Can anyone name me how many 1st RD picks the highest graded oline in the league.
Its 1.
The Browns have Jedrick Willis.thats the 1st RDer
Bitonio is a 2nd RD from 2 regimes ago. Tretter is FA from GB. Wyatt Teller the best OG in the NFL
was a afterthought in a trade.
And Jack Conklin a FA from the Titans.
But they only got to that level cause,of the arrival of Bill Callahan.
The Browns in 2020-added 2 new pieces plus the coach....boom. Best oline in the NFL
Then in the Steelers playoff win they had a no name start at RG for Bitonio.
Didnt miss a beat up front.
Thats coaching folks.
Good post but a tad disingenuous. Conklin was a 1st rd pick, #8 overall. So they have 2 #1s. A 2nd. A 4th. And a 5th.
I'd also note that they were healthy last year. 4/5 guys played 960+ snaps. 3 over 1,000. Teller played 696.
Last year, we played with a 1st (Jonah), and 2nd (XSF), undrafted (Hopkins), a 7th (Hart), and a 4th (Jordan). Our snap count leaders were Hopkins at 937, Hart at 871, Jordan at 730, Jonah at 633 and Spain at 543 (undrafted). Two undrafted guys, a 7th, a 4th, and a 1st. Next most snaps were Fred (undrafted), Redmond (undrafted), XSF (2nd), and Adeniji (6th).
Of the 9 guys who played the most: 4 undrafted, a 7th, a rookie 6th, a 4th, a 2nd, and a rookie 1st. Yes, Price is a 1st. But he's a busted 1st and played the 10th most snaps. Even including Billy, our 10 rostered guys: 2 1sts, 1 2nd, 1 4th, 1 6th, 1 7th, 4 undrafted. Pretty heavy on the back end. None of the late round/undrafted guys turned into a pro-bowl level guy, though Hopkins/Spain are below average starters.
Point is, while I agree coaching is important. And that Turner is a bum. And that Pollack is much better. I do not want to bet Burrow's future on it.
Yes, swappung out Hart for Reiff, a former 1st round pick and slightly above average LT is an upgrade. But our unit still needs a lot of upgrades. Better starters. Better reserves. Pollack may be able to turn Turner's lemons into lemonade. But what if he has legit top shelf ingediants to start with?
The Browns got OBJ & still stunk. They added Conklin and Willis and made the POs.
With a good to great OL, Burrow will put up a ton of points. The running game will be better. The receivers we have will be better. FA WRs and TEs will want to play here. And we can keep the D off the field a lot.
Upgrade the OL.
