Thoughtson Biden's speech/plan?

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(05-10-2021, 07:21 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: Can we stop conflating socialist policies with social programs? Now, I'm on BigP's side, so it pains me to do this, but the Nordic countries aren't really democratic socialist, but social democrats. A small, but important difference.

Socialism is the government/people owning the means of production. Social programs are when a government works to ensure the basic needs of the people are met. Capitalism with a strong set of social programs is 100% doable, but becomes harder in strong individualistic cultures (like the US) where the haves typically don't give a rat's ass about the have nots.

Thank you.  I kept getting the urge to add this point myself.  Whenever someone talks about European nations being an example of how socialism can work I want to pull my hair out.