06-10-2021, 12:05 PM
(06-09-2021, 11:09 PM)samhain Wrote: I'll take the militia members over that MAGA group any day, although most of them are probably ride or die Trumpers. At least militia members have consistent principles and justifications. They hate the gubmint plain and simple, and nothing will make them trust anything the Federal branch does.
MAGA types are far worse. They have, uh, let's say "loose" principles when it comes to any policy other than getting rid of all the Mexicans ASAP. They're basically just Mr Garrison from South Park given life and in huge numbers. Other than that, their only beliefs are whatever comes out of DJT's mouth at any given moment. It could be something they despised their entire life, but if it Trump tells them it's legit MAGA, they'll die for it. MAGA conservatives are not a policy-oriented bunch. They are honestly just a fan club that has sadly been given a ton of political power.
Honestly. we've had oddball gun collectors and militia types basically forever in this country. It's rare that actually they do anything outside of standing around and totally not threatening anyone at all with long guns in public places during politically charged events. It only took MAGA being around 4 years to invade the actual capitol. Looks like the militia guys need to step up their game, lol.
I'd love to really explore what you think is a "maga type" and who exactly you're referring to when you say a "middling" amount of his supporters would like to send people to camps, incinerate people, and would be totally ok with deaths if they were strangers, and many even with family and friends.
Off the top of my head, I think Trump got around 70 million votes. What percentage of those votes would say fit your description?
Are all MAGA people the same? And what is a MAGA person exactly? Is it simply someone who voted for him? Is it someone who had a Trump sticker on their car and/or a sign in their yard? Is it someone who gathered on the side of the road in a large group with signs? Is it reserved for those that attended the rallys? Is it smaller pockets of all the above? Or is it just the miniscule amount that showed up on January 6th?
I think some of these answers may be helpful for me to understand your position. Because quite honestly, your post earlier came across as incredibly offensive and, to be honest, a little bit scary. I'm not sure this one is fairing better in my mind either.
I really hope (if you answer this) that I'll get something like "less than 1% of the 70 million votes are who I was talking about". Because if you think there's millions upon millions of people in this country that would be ok with what you've previously stated, and they're all indivudually worse than the those individiuals that made up small anarchist group that tried to kidnap the governor, then I think these last 4 years may have broken your brain. And it's depressing (seriously) to think that this country is now this divided.
I will add this as well; taking the worst of the worst and applying it to larger group is incredibly dangerous. It would be ridiculous for me to say that everyone that is a part of BLM, or has marched or protested with BLM can be diredtly associated with the worst behaviors seen at these events. I would think it would only be fair to extend the same logic to the MAGA types. When you're talking about groups this large you're going to get an array of personalites, both good and bad. Liberal thinking used to support this logic and I hope most still do. You can't pick and choose when to use a broad brush.
