06-15-2021, 11:09 AM
(06-15-2021, 08:04 AM)Dill Wrote: What is your source for 1,000 cases out of over a billion votes? I am wondering if it includes election fraud.
You keep referring to evidence of voter fraud in the last election--but you don't acknowledge that so far all claims which have been adjudicated have not been sustained by evidence. Are there new claims whose status is any different? Links?
States all just stopped counting at the same time?? No idea what you are referring to. I watch tv too and saw final results coming in at different times.
What "never happened before" is that we had a POTUS, along with other state party officials, calling swing states to arm-twist election officials to produce the right vote count. Yet you don't seem concerned that a group willing to use their power illegally might be deploying "election fraud" as yet another tactic to undermine fair elections.
You seem to have a narrow definition of "election integrity" here. It only appears to include the kinds of "fraud" which are statistically miniscule and don't really skew elections. Like how many fraudulent votes out of a billion? 1 per million?
But it ignores the threat to election integrity created by voter id laws which target certain demographics with access hardship, and voter purges timed just before elections, and laws in Red states which can turn election certification over to Republican legislatures if there is a "question" about election results.
What about the threat to integrity created by illegal recounts with no bipartisan controls and transparency?
You have not answered my question about Trump's repeated--and repeatedly debunked--claims of election fraud. Why do millions of Trump Republican voters, and "independents" like yourself, think every new conspiracy proposed by the Trump party is worthy of yet another recount--only this time under partisan circumstances?
It's as if the term "election fraud" is becoming a synonym for "any free and fair election won by a Democrat," because that it what Republican election fraud legislation is now designed to prevent.
I posted my source. Nearly 1000 since 1979 and keep in mind those are just the ones who got caught. Thats definitely not all of them because a lot of them cheat. I know there are some good ones out there, on both sides, but not nearly as many as needed.
I'm not a Trump supporter, or a Obama/Hillary/Biden supporter. I'm an America supporter and all of the people in it. I want to see people look beyond the divisive nature of modern politics and get along. I would like to see the left and right unite to hold politicians accountable and get some things done that we can all agree on. There are more of those things than people think. Snowflakes and deplorables have more in common than ppl might think lol.
