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The Big Lie: Continuing Fallout
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Very early, but some signs the U.S. may be turning the corner on The Big Lie. I still see this as the most serious domestic problem in the U.S. right now, given the potential for disrupting legitimate election processes/results in 2022. 1. and 2. below look to place accountability back at the center of fraud debates. 3. may potentially do that.

1. Rudy Giuliani's law license is suspended. http://www.nycourts.gov/courts/ad1/calendar/List_Word/2021/06_Jun/24/PDF/Matter%20of%20Giuliani%20(2021-00506)%20PC.pdf
For the reasons that follow, we conclude that there is uncontroverted evidence that respondent communicated demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts, lawmakers and the public at large in his capacity as lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump and the Trump campaign in connection with Trump’s failed effort at reelection in 2020. These false statements were made to improperly bolster respondent’s narrative that due to widespread voter fraud, victory in the 2020 United States presidential
election was stolen from his client. We conclude that respondent’s conduct immediately threatens the public interest and warrants interim suspension from the practice of law, pending further proceedings before the Attorney Grievance Committee (sometimes AGC
or Committee).


NYT coverage: Giuliani suspended from practicing law in New York over bogus election fraud claims
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/giuliani-suspended-practicing-law-new-york-over-bogus-election-fraud-n1272266

2. Michigan Republicans' Senate Report on 2020 election systematically debunks Trump/GOP claims of election fraud in that state--rigged Dominion machines, dead people voting, ballet harvesting all quashed.https://misenategopcdn.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/99/doccuments/20210623/SMPO_2020ElectionReport.pdf

Most significant, though is the recognition that some of those falsely charging fraud were themselves perpetrating a kind of fraud. The Chair, Sen. Edward McBroom, warns: "We must all remember: 'extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof' and 'claiming to find something extraordinary requires first eliminating the ordinary.' Also, sources must lose credibility when it is shown they promote falsehoods, even more when they never take accountability for those falsehoods (5).

Unfortunately, the recognition of fraudulent fraud claims as such, and the role they played in de-legitimizing the election for many MI voters, won't dissuade MI Republicans from pushing for more restrictive voter laws. And Trump is already attacking the Report as a "cover up" https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2021/06/24/trump-gop-republican-senators-fraud-claims-michigan/7778410002/. So a number of MI GOP voters may repudiate it.

3. Pelosi announces formation of House committee to probe Jan. 6 insurrection.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/pelosi-announces-formation-of-house-committee-to-probe-jan-6-insurrection-2021-06-24

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Thursday announced the establishment of a new committee to investigate the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol. "It is imperative that we establish the truth of that day and ensure that an attack of that kind cannot happen and that we root out the causes of it all," the California Democrat told reporters during a briefing. Pelosi earlier this week signaled that she was poised to create the committee after Senate Republicans blocked the creation of an independent probe.

The Senate may block accountability, but the House may step up. If they were able to hold seven Benghazi hearings to produce a giant nothingburger, they should be able to get at least ONE for an insurrection which breached the Capitol at the moment power was to be peacefully transferred.

On the down side, MI and PA are still pushing for "audits" like the one conducted by Cyber Monkeys in AZ. And the Department of Homeland Security has concerns about the NEW conspiracy theory, namely that Trump will be re-instated in August.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/24/dhs-concerned-trump-reinstatement-496050
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The Big Lie: Continuing Fallout - Dill - 06-24-2021, 10:45 PM
RE: The Big Lie: Continuing Fallout - Dill - 06-25-2021, 12:07 PM
RE: The Big Lie: Continuing Fallout - Mer - 06-25-2021, 01:23 PM
RE: The Big Lie: Continuing Fallout - Dill - 06-25-2021, 02:45 PM
RE: The Big Lie: Continuing Fallout - Dill - 06-26-2021, 10:53 AM
RE: The Big Lie: Continuing Fallout - Dill - 06-25-2021, 05:09 PM
RE: The Big Lie: Continuing Fallout - Dill - 06-25-2021, 05:53 PM
RE: The Big Lie: Continuing Fallout - Dill - 06-26-2021, 10:02 AM
RE: The Big Lie: Continuing Fallout - Dill - 06-26-2021, 08:11 AM
RE: The Big Lie: Continuing Fallout - Mer - 06-25-2021, 05:31 PM
RE: The Big Lie: Continuing Fallout - Mer - 06-25-2021, 06:03 PM
RE: The Big Lie: Continuing Fallout - Mer - 06-25-2021, 08:11 PM
RE: The Big Lie: Continuing Fallout - Dill - 06-25-2021, 02:27 PM
RE: The Big Lie: Continuing Fallout - Dill - 01-14-2022, 05:48 PM
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