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Are We Going To Keep Ignoring Biden Being Insane?
(07-07-2021, 09:06 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Losing side doesn’t necessarily mean wrong side. I don’t think anti-abortion is wrong, and lots of social conservatives were against slavery. Hell a large chunk of black people are socially conservative. A lot if not most of people who championed women’s suffrage would have been anti-gay marriage so we’re they social conservatives?  A lot if not most of anti-slavery people would have been anti-abortion.  What were they?

You can be progressive in one position and conservative in another. For a long time, the black community was progressive when it came to racial equality but conservative when it came to LGBTQ+, which caused many gay black men to be "on the down low."

 I'm speaking less about the individual people and more about the movements as a whole. And all of those movements towards equality were unequivocally progressive movements. By definition. 

Plus, you can't really compare historical figures to modern standards.  Abraham Lincoln was extremely progressive for his Era but comparing his beliefs to even conservatives nowadays would make him seem like a racist nut job. 

I'm not sure what you mean when you say some social conservatives were against slavery. I'd have to understand who you're referring to with that. Conservatism is, after all, the political ideology that wants to keep things, especially social hierarchies, in place or, in some cases, go back to previous social hierarchies. 
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RE: Are We Going To Keep Ignoring Biden Being Insane? - CJD - 07-07-2021, 09:35 PM

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