New Leaked Russian Documents

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(07-21-2021, 12:33 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Translation; if you disagree with Dill you're involved in a hivemind and can't think for yourself.


Here's the issue with this thread.  You can not believe in Trump's "the election was stolen" story and still not have many, or any, issues with the voting restrictions being imposed in states like GA or TX.  Here's the real question that should be asked, are there states with even more restrictive voting laws already in place that are not red states, or even deep blue states such as Delaware?  If the answer to this question is yes then one must question why these new laws are inviting this level of scrutiny but these other states aren't being mentioned at all.

I'm much more liberal on this issue than most would assume.  I have zero issue with election day being a federal holiday.  I think any citizen of legal age who wants to to vote should be able to.  But I don't think things such as restricting early voting, absentee ballots or requiring an ID to vote prevent anyone who wants to vote from actually doing so.  If there are obstacles for some that they cannot personally overcome then change the purpose of groups that, for example collect absentee ballots for people, instead focus on assisting those people in getting what they need to vote, e.g. an ID, a birth certificate, etc.

Yeah, my position on all this is not so clearly in line with the democrat's point of view regarding many of these laws. It's often the Puerto Rico conundrum all over again for me. I figure the GOP does indeed introduce these laws because in their calculation it probably helps them. That doesn't mean these measures are all wrong or appalling. (I do think some of these laws take it too far though, but far from all.)

I do have a hard time though to listen to Trump or ardent Trump supporters that are all for securing the election integrity, while at the same time not finding it in themselves to condemn attempts to pressure officials into changing the official (and many times controlled and audited) results in Trump's favor. On the contrary, they have no issue with such attempts at all. That has zero to do with securing election integrity, it is the opposite of that and hence the whole "we're just about election integrity" point sounds real hollow if made by the very same people. And as someone advocating for consistency I figure you can acknowledge that point.