07-28-2021, 12:15 PM
(07-28-2021, 11:48 AM)bengaloo Wrote: I've heard that, and I've heard the opposite of that. What do we believe though? Thats the hard part. In the UK, its their actual government data that shows the delta cases make up almost all new cases, but hospitalization rates are basically flatlined down to near zero. News anchors speak differently about it however. Do we trust the government data that they list on their websites, or news anchors, or the WHO, etc? And its been this way the entire time. The story changes depending on which news or government people are telling it. Lots of misinformation and back tracking this entire time and that is a big part of the problem. Its dividing people to the point where you have people, including in this very thread who are wishing death upon others over all this, like grampholic basically did. I mean seriously, wishing death upon others over a vaccine for a virus with a 99% survival rate? This is how low we've sunk, forreal? Its sad to see.
But to further drive home my point about the delta strain, the CDC director is now saying vaccinated people can get it, and transmit it whether they are vaccinated or not, and now its more of this, which is a direct quote from her PC conference yesterday “This new science is worrisome, and unfortunately warrants an update to our recommendation.”
So now what? The goal posts are about to move again, but the NFL has already put in place some harsh punishments for something they really know nothing about and everyone including the medical community is still learning about. Do they change the rules/punishments if it turns out Pfizer isnt effective on Delta? Does Pfizer not being as effective on Delta inspire more confidence for people to get another different vaccine for a virus that still has a 99% survival rate even after they have already had a vaccine for it that was supposed to work? I dont think it does for a lot of people. I think creates more doubt and less trust in "the science". How about on the CDC website, it says there were just about 10k deaths the entire time from covid with people who didnt already have a serious underlying condition. 30-50k people die from the common flu every year. This is nothing new. 2018 there was a bad one. My grandpa got it and it was harder on him than covid was, and he's almost 98 right now. He survived covid and the nasty flu of 2018 that killed something like 80,000 ppls back then.
The bottom line is that I think the NFL and many others are making way too harsh punishments for something they dont know enough about yet and for something they keep moving the goal posts for. Why not just cancel season and go hide in a bunker...
Your use of data is extremely poor, you excluded all the people with underlying conditions in the covid data and then compared it the flu deaths for a year but didn't exclude the people with underlying conditions that the flu killed. It is this misuse of data that creates the situation we now have.
