08-19-2021, 11:17 AM
(08-19-2021, 10:10 AM)jj22 Wrote: I don't think the argument is that Trumps would be better. What we are learning is that this is Trumps exit strategy in the deal he signed to withdrawal. All Biden did was push the date up. But as people are saying 2 more months or a year wouldn't have changed anything. Especially now that we know the Taliban taking over Afghanistan was apart of the deal signed by Trump who spoke about it to the support of those now upset about the results.
Truth is this was one of Trumps good policies, and it is the craziest thing to see his supporters turn on him and not credit him anymore for it. As it stands right now and what you can't tell from the media coverage who want us to go back to war as it makes for good TV is that over 90% of Americans agree with Biden on the withdrawal. They agreed with Trump too, but his supporters have snatched back the policy win from him in an amazing turn of events. Biden will happily take it tho.
Wouldn't have changed anything in terms of what though?
There's two arguments going on right now.
1. Whether or not we should have withdrawn at all.
2. How we should have withdrawn.
These are two different things and people seem to be combining the two into one issue.
People continue to bring up (and when I say people I'm more so talking about general discussion amongst the public/media and not this message board specifically) that Trump was going to withdraw anyway, but that seems to be beside the point of the real issue which is that we did not have a sound exit strategy and executed the withdrawal anyway.
Trump did in fact have a plan to withdraw, but to say "This was his plan" is not true.
Also, it seems very strange to me that Americans (and the President himself) are openly saying that the President of the United States had his hands tied with a terrorist group. Regardless of whatever Trumps plan was, the fact of the matter is Biden could have changed anything Trump wanted to do in terms of retreating from Afghanistan. To say the Presidents hands were tied is laughable.
However, Biden made clear that he was "tied to the deal" because he didn't want to end up sending more troops to Afghanistan if he were to change the deal.
Well isn't that convenient? Biden was basing his decision on a self fulfilling prophecy that he imagined himself. Ironically what is Biden doing now to save face for the disaster he started just days ago? Sending more troops back to get people out safely.
Oh...... so that thing you didn't want to happen if you renegotiated with the Taliban is.....well......now happening without the renegotiation part. This is genius stuff.
