08-19-2021, 12:21 PM
(08-19-2021, 01:08 AM)Dill Wrote: I don't think Islam "routinely subjugates and tortures women, murders homosexuals and demonizes all other religious beliefs."
Yes, we all know that's what you believe.
Quote:Casting it as such IS a "right wing" position. (It wasn't "leftists" who outlawed Sharia in Oklahoma)
Yes, we all know that's what you believe.
Quote:I have explained to you before the structural analogy between types of scapegoating based upon race, religion and ethnicity.
Pointing out facts is not scapegoating.
Quote:While I have known, worked and lived with dozens of Muslims in four countries, I have never met one who fits your description of Islam.
I didn't describe "Islam" I described radical Islam. I'd think you'd be the most aware of that distinction.
Quote:I would hope all "freedom loving people" do not follow you in this demonization of the religious beliefs of hundreds of millions.
I would hope no one demonizes a whole group because of the actions of some. After all, you'd never do that with a group like Trump voters, would you? You are once again equating legitimate criticism of radical Islam, which is practiced by tens of millions, with an attack on the religion as a whole.
Quote:Notice that you ADDED the word "prevalent." I acknowledged no such thing.
Yeah, duh. hence it being in my post. You would never acknowledge radical Islam's prevalence and we all know why.
Quote:Oh Brother . . . taking Mike's intent to be partly humorous does not "ignore his actual point."
No, making a post that obviously misses his point does.
Quote:The point of my comparison, to explain again, was to remind people that defense of the 2A can be quite compatible with anti-democratic impulses.
Ahahha, precious!
Quote:And there are far more than "100,000" US citizens now exhibiting such. You converted that to an equation of levels of religiosity and numbers.
There are? I don't suppose you'd care to enlighten us?
Quote:That indicates difficulty with recognizing common forms in differing religious practices, as in the above-mentioned structural analogy between bases of scapegoating. The logic of fundamentalism is pretty much similar everywhere, without everywhere driving the same political extremes. Pointing out the "fundamentalist" practice of some 2A defenders in this case does identify something in common with religious and anti-democratic Taliban, but it doesn't claim all or even many "modern Christians" are like fundamentalists Muslims in Afghanistan in this regard. You just made up that claim.
I inferred it from the obvious inference in your post.
Quote:So you are imputing to me points I did not make, adding words to change points I did make, and generally riding your own hobby horse which consists in making ALL Islam as despicably "radical" as possible. Tolerating the religion of millions of kind, decent, and honorable people = tolerating "subjugation and torturing of women" etc. If enough Americans follow your hyperbole in this, then the result is intolerance and persecution of a religious minority.
This is an outright lie, and you should be ashamed to be saying it. In no way shape or form did I say "ALL Islam" (your words) was "desicably radical" (again your words). You're in full Fred mode, blatantly making shit up to try and win an internet argument.
Quote:Which do you hate more--"bigotry," Islam or "inconsistency"? You've regularly spoken out against all three.
But you cannot consistently hate all three.
I hate bigotry, radical Islam and inconsistency. I will always hate all three and will be consistent in my hatred for all three. The fact that you cannot separate criticism of radical Islam, and it's millions of adherents, from normal Muslims is your character flaw to resolve, not mine.
If you choose to respond to this kindly do so without blatantly lying about what I've said, as you did before. Not only are you putting words in people's mouths like Fred, you're becoming as chronically dishonest as Fred.
